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[+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -17 points 1 month ago (24 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source hideshow 24 child comments replies: [–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago (2 children) Is it just me or I see it calling out the DNC cult who think they're leftists. Aren't you the ones always waiting for the next election that will magically "fix" everything and return to status quo of being unaffected by your foreign policies while it ravages people abroad? There are actual good people going out protesting, recording, blockading, deterring ICE. There's people destroying surveillance tech, stopping data centers being built, shaming big oil/military industry execs at their own meetups. There's ethical people openly calling out rapists, zionists, homophopic, racists, corrupt politicians, pigs and judges. ^This is actual progress. They're most likely going to vote while also making the ruling class afraid. Then there are people whose only thought process goes: "one more election, bro" "just one more election, bro" "it'll fix everything, bro" "just vote blue, bro" "it'll work this time, bro" "come on, bro, this is all or nothing, bro" "I don't care about war crimes, just let me have my cheap gas, bro" "Come on, bro. If you don't vote blue, the other side is much worse bro" "they have no serious platform except populist propaganda, but they'll only kill children in middle east and that's fine by me, bro" "please, bro. just one more election, bro" Weak permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) So it's not you here doing that? https://lemmy.ml/comment/27508205 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago Ty for admitting the person above is correct permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago (16 children) Yes, and just like the second coming a revolution has never happened. /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -11 points 1 month ago (16 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (14 children) China, Russia, Vietnam, Cuba permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago But the US/west continuously try to destroy their economies, kill their leaders, foment social unrest, commit sabotage. Clearly the concept is a failure. ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children) don't forget DPRK and Laos permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Certainly the DPRK, I am not very well read on Laos however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 1 month ago Laos doesn't get much attention because they haven't had much chance to develop after the US razed the whole country to the ground and left a bunch of mines and unexploded ordinance that are still being removed to this day. But they do have a communist party in charge, and China has been actively helping them recently. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -14 points 1 month ago (10 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (3 children) By almost every metric they were massively successful seeing some of the largest leaps in life expectancy in history side by side with the largest strides in poverty alleviation, infant mortality and more. If you exclude just China alone from global poverty statistics global poverty by headcount is worse today than in 1981. Not that you really care you just want to pontificate from your soapbox about "the silly Marxists" who dare to actually wish for and push for better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago Americans care about freedom. You should probably learn this So we've moved from most people to Americans. Interesting. Also given America has the largest prison population in the world in raw numbers not even per capita I'm not sure that's particularly true, especially when American prisons are by design essentially slavery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Americans care about freedom Yes the freedom to be free to be terrible and racist to others, or be free to appear to get the chance to be extraordinarily wealthy not anything related to actual freedom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Your argument is that the revolutions were unsuccessful. In what way is the PRC worse than the republic of china? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) "Uhh sure peoples lives got twice as long and they went from feudalism to space in one lifetime and are now the dominant world power but OH THE NONSPECIFIC COMMUNIST HORRORS, OHHH HOW TERRIBLY COMMUNISM HAS FAILED." TheFinn Proud Axis power doomily vagueposting about socialism. Fork found in kitchen. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children) and by most people you mean most liberals whose brains haven't yet developed capacity for critical thinking permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elixir_fan@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago I love your snark o7 permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago Plenty of people already did in this very thread dumbo. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago Other people have talked about socialist revolutions, which are indeed great examples. But we can't forget the global bourgeois revolutions that lead to capitalism throughout the world. Without those we would still be stuck in feudalism. While capitalism has many flaws it's much better than feudalism in many ways. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 15 points 1 month ago ^ this kind of idiocy is precisely why people need to read theory https://redsails.org/witbd-rs-abridged/ permalink fedilink source parent [+] Donkter@lemmy.world -8 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (2 children) Yeah you can spot these types pretty easily in this thread. What are the tells? any time you see someone respond to the truth: “there is a two party system in every election and one of them will win whether you like it or not” With: “both sides do genocide” So you deny that the Democrats are contributing towards the genocide? Or that you're just being honest and that you don't care? It’s obvious they might not actually tie their own shoelaces. It's obvious you lot have no object permanence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Donkter@lemmy.world -6 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago The point is that it’s a non-sequiter. “Buh both sides.” Isn’t a sane response to “one of them is going to win anyway.” So what is your thought on the genocide? Seems like you can justify voting for it since "one of them is going to win anyway"? permalink fedilink source parent [–] m532@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago I can't tie my shoes (therefore I have geox) Explain how that's diminishing the validity of my comments. Take the mask off. Show everyone your true form. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago (2 children) Is it just me or I see it calling out the DNC cult who think they're leftists. Aren't you the ones always waiting for the next election that will magically "fix" everything and return to status quo of being unaffected by your foreign policies while it ravages people abroad? There are actual good people going out protesting, recording, blockading, deterring ICE. There's people destroying surveillance tech, stopping data centers being built, shaming big oil/military industry execs at their own meetups. There's ethical people openly calling out rapists, zionists, homophopic, racists, corrupt politicians, pigs and judges. ^This is actual progress. They're most likely going to vote while also making the ruling class afraid. Then there are people whose only thought process goes: "one more election, bro" "just one more election, bro" "it'll fix everything, bro" "just vote blue, bro" "it'll work this time, bro" "come on, bro, this is all or nothing, bro" "I don't care about war crimes, just let me have my cheap gas, bro" "Come on, bro. If you don't vote blue, the other side is much worse bro" "they have no serious platform except populist propaganda, but they'll only kill children in middle east and that's fine by me, bro" "please, bro. just one more election, bro" Weak permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) So it's not you here doing that? https://lemmy.ml/comment/27508205 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago Ty for admitting the person above is correct permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) So it's not you here doing that? https://lemmy.ml/comment/27508205 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago Ty for admitting the person above is correct permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) So it's not you here doing that? https://lemmy.ml/comment/27508205 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago Ty for admitting the person above is correct permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago Ty for admitting the person above is correct permalink fedilink source parent
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago Ty for admitting the person above is correct permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago (16 children) Yes, and just like the second coming a revolution has never happened. /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -11 points 1 month ago (16 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (14 children) China, Russia, Vietnam, Cuba permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago But the US/west continuously try to destroy their economies, kill their leaders, foment social unrest, commit sabotage. Clearly the concept is a failure. ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children) don't forget DPRK and Laos permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Certainly the DPRK, I am not very well read on Laos however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 1 month ago Laos doesn't get much attention because they haven't had much chance to develop after the US razed the whole country to the ground and left a bunch of mines and unexploded ordinance that are still being removed to this day. But they do have a communist party in charge, and China has been actively helping them recently. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -14 points 1 month ago (10 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (3 children) By almost every metric they were massively successful seeing some of the largest leaps in life expectancy in history side by side with the largest strides in poverty alleviation, infant mortality and more. If you exclude just China alone from global poverty statistics global poverty by headcount is worse today than in 1981. Not that you really care you just want to pontificate from your soapbox about "the silly Marxists" who dare to actually wish for and push for better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago Americans care about freedom. You should probably learn this So we've moved from most people to Americans. Interesting. Also given America has the largest prison population in the world in raw numbers not even per capita I'm not sure that's particularly true, especially when American prisons are by design essentially slavery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Americans care about freedom Yes the freedom to be free to be terrible and racist to others, or be free to appear to get the chance to be extraordinarily wealthy not anything related to actual freedom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Your argument is that the revolutions were unsuccessful. In what way is the PRC worse than the republic of china? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) "Uhh sure peoples lives got twice as long and they went from feudalism to space in one lifetime and are now the dominant world power but OH THE NONSPECIFIC COMMUNIST HORRORS, OHHH HOW TERRIBLY COMMUNISM HAS FAILED." TheFinn Proud Axis power doomily vagueposting about socialism. Fork found in kitchen. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children) and by most people you mean most liberals whose brains haven't yet developed capacity for critical thinking permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elixir_fan@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago I love your snark o7 permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago Plenty of people already did in this very thread dumbo. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago Other people have talked about socialist revolutions, which are indeed great examples. But we can't forget the global bourgeois revolutions that lead to capitalism throughout the world. Without those we would still be stuck in feudalism. While capitalism has many flaws it's much better than feudalism in many ways. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -11 points 1 month ago (16 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (14 children) China, Russia, Vietnam, Cuba permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago But the US/west continuously try to destroy their economies, kill their leaders, foment social unrest, commit sabotage. Clearly the concept is a failure. ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children) don't forget DPRK and Laos permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Certainly the DPRK, I am not very well read on Laos however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 1 month ago Laos doesn't get much attention because they haven't had much chance to develop after the US razed the whole country to the ground and left a bunch of mines and unexploded ordinance that are still being removed to this day. But they do have a communist party in charge, and China has been actively helping them recently. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -14 points 1 month ago (10 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (3 children) By almost every metric they were massively successful seeing some of the largest leaps in life expectancy in history side by side with the largest strides in poverty alleviation, infant mortality and more. If you exclude just China alone from global poverty statistics global poverty by headcount is worse today than in 1981. Not that you really care you just want to pontificate from your soapbox about "the silly Marxists" who dare to actually wish for and push for better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago Americans care about freedom. You should probably learn this So we've moved from most people to Americans. Interesting. Also given America has the largest prison population in the world in raw numbers not even per capita I'm not sure that's particularly true, especially when American prisons are by design essentially slavery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Americans care about freedom Yes the freedom to be free to be terrible and racist to others, or be free to appear to get the chance to be extraordinarily wealthy not anything related to actual freedom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Your argument is that the revolutions were unsuccessful. In what way is the PRC worse than the republic of china? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) "Uhh sure peoples lives got twice as long and they went from feudalism to space in one lifetime and are now the dominant world power but OH THE NONSPECIFIC COMMUNIST HORRORS, OHHH HOW TERRIBLY COMMUNISM HAS FAILED." TheFinn Proud Axis power doomily vagueposting about socialism. Fork found in kitchen. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children) and by most people you mean most liberals whose brains haven't yet developed capacity for critical thinking permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elixir_fan@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago I love your snark o7 permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago Plenty of people already did in this very thread dumbo. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago Other people have talked about socialist revolutions, which are indeed great examples. But we can't forget the global bourgeois revolutions that lead to capitalism throughout the world. Without those we would still be stuck in feudalism. While capitalism has many flaws it's much better than feudalism in many ways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (14 children) China, Russia, Vietnam, Cuba permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago But the US/west continuously try to destroy their economies, kill their leaders, foment social unrest, commit sabotage. Clearly the concept is a failure. ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children) don't forget DPRK and Laos permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Certainly the DPRK, I am not very well read on Laos however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 1 month ago Laos doesn't get much attention because they haven't had much chance to develop after the US razed the whole country to the ground and left a bunch of mines and unexploded ordinance that are still being removed to this day. But they do have a communist party in charge, and China has been actively helping them recently. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -14 points 1 month ago (10 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (3 children) By almost every metric they were massively successful seeing some of the largest leaps in life expectancy in history side by side with the largest strides in poverty alleviation, infant mortality and more. If you exclude just China alone from global poverty statistics global poverty by headcount is worse today than in 1981. Not that you really care you just want to pontificate from your soapbox about "the silly Marxists" who dare to actually wish for and push for better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago Americans care about freedom. You should probably learn this So we've moved from most people to Americans. Interesting. Also given America has the largest prison population in the world in raw numbers not even per capita I'm not sure that's particularly true, especially when American prisons are by design essentially slavery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Americans care about freedom Yes the freedom to be free to be terrible and racist to others, or be free to appear to get the chance to be extraordinarily wealthy not anything related to actual freedom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Your argument is that the revolutions were unsuccessful. In what way is the PRC worse than the republic of china? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) "Uhh sure peoples lives got twice as long and they went from feudalism to space in one lifetime and are now the dominant world power but OH THE NONSPECIFIC COMMUNIST HORRORS, OHHH HOW TERRIBLY COMMUNISM HAS FAILED." TheFinn Proud Axis power doomily vagueposting about socialism. Fork found in kitchen. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children) and by most people you mean most liberals whose brains haven't yet developed capacity for critical thinking permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elixir_fan@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago I love your snark o7 permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago Plenty of people already did in this very thread dumbo. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago But the US/west continuously try to destroy their economies, kill their leaders, foment social unrest, commit sabotage. Clearly the concept is a failure. ;) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children) don't forget DPRK and Laos permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Certainly the DPRK, I am not very well read on Laos however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 1 month ago Laos doesn't get much attention because they haven't had much chance to develop after the US razed the whole country to the ground and left a bunch of mines and unexploded ordinance that are still being removed to this day. But they do have a communist party in charge, and China has been actively helping them recently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Certainly the DPRK, I am not very well read on Laos however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 1 month ago Laos doesn't get much attention because they haven't had much chance to develop after the US razed the whole country to the ground and left a bunch of mines and unexploded ordinance that are still being removed to this day. But they do have a communist party in charge, and China has been actively helping them recently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 1 month ago Laos doesn't get much attention because they haven't had much chance to develop after the US razed the whole country to the ground and left a bunch of mines and unexploded ordinance that are still being removed to this day. But they do have a communist party in charge, and China has been actively helping them recently. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -14 points 1 month ago (10 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (3 children) By almost every metric they were massively successful seeing some of the largest leaps in life expectancy in history side by side with the largest strides in poverty alleviation, infant mortality and more. If you exclude just China alone from global poverty statistics global poverty by headcount is worse today than in 1981. Not that you really care you just want to pontificate from your soapbox about "the silly Marxists" who dare to actually wish for and push for better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago Americans care about freedom. You should probably learn this So we've moved from most people to Americans. Interesting. Also given America has the largest prison population in the world in raw numbers not even per capita I'm not sure that's particularly true, especially when American prisons are by design essentially slavery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Americans care about freedom Yes the freedom to be free to be terrible and racist to others, or be free to appear to get the chance to be extraordinarily wealthy not anything related to actual freedom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Your argument is that the revolutions were unsuccessful. In what way is the PRC worse than the republic of china? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) "Uhh sure peoples lives got twice as long and they went from feudalism to space in one lifetime and are now the dominant world power but OH THE NONSPECIFIC COMMUNIST HORRORS, OHHH HOW TERRIBLY COMMUNISM HAS FAILED." TheFinn Proud Axis power doomily vagueposting about socialism. Fork found in kitchen. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children) and by most people you mean most liberals whose brains haven't yet developed capacity for critical thinking permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elixir_fan@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago I love your snark o7 permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago Plenty of people already did in this very thread dumbo. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (3 children) By almost every metric they were massively successful seeing some of the largest leaps in life expectancy in history side by side with the largest strides in poverty alleviation, infant mortality and more. If you exclude just China alone from global poverty statistics global poverty by headcount is worse today than in 1981. Not that you really care you just want to pontificate from your soapbox about "the silly Marxists" who dare to actually wish for and push for better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago Americans care about freedom. You should probably learn this So we've moved from most people to Americans. Interesting. Also given America has the largest prison population in the world in raw numbers not even per capita I'm not sure that's particularly true, especially when American prisons are by design essentially slavery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Americans care about freedom Yes the freedom to be free to be terrible and racist to others, or be free to appear to get the chance to be extraordinarily wealthy not anything related to actual freedom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago Americans care about freedom. You should probably learn this So we've moved from most people to Americans. Interesting. Also given America has the largest prison population in the world in raw numbers not even per capita I'm not sure that's particularly true, especially when American prisons are by design essentially slavery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Americans care about freedom Yes the freedom to be free to be terrible and racist to others, or be free to appear to get the chance to be extraordinarily wealthy not anything related to actual freedom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago Americans care about freedom. You should probably learn this So we've moved from most people to Americans. Interesting. Also given America has the largest prison population in the world in raw numbers not even per capita I'm not sure that's particularly true, especially when American prisons are by design essentially slavery. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Americans care about freedom Yes the freedom to be free to be terrible and racist to others, or be free to appear to get the chance to be extraordinarily wealthy not anything related to actual freedom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Your argument is that the revolutions were unsuccessful. In what way is the PRC worse than the republic of china? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) "Uhh sure peoples lives got twice as long and they went from feudalism to space in one lifetime and are now the dominant world power but OH THE NONSPECIFIC COMMUNIST HORRORS, OHHH HOW TERRIBLY COMMUNISM HAS FAILED." TheFinn Proud Axis power doomily vagueposting about socialism. Fork found in kitchen. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Your argument is that the revolutions were unsuccessful. In what way is the PRC worse than the republic of china? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) "Uhh sure peoples lives got twice as long and they went from feudalism to space in one lifetime and are now the dominant world power but OH THE NONSPECIFIC COMMUNIST HORRORS, OHHH HOW TERRIBLY COMMUNISM HAS FAILED." TheFinn Proud Axis power doomily vagueposting about socialism. Fork found in kitchen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Your argument is that the revolutions were unsuccessful. In what way is the PRC worse than the republic of china? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) "Uhh sure peoples lives got twice as long and they went from feudalism to space in one lifetime and are now the dominant world power but OH THE NONSPECIFIC COMMUNIST HORRORS, OHHH HOW TERRIBLY COMMUNISM HAS FAILED." TheFinn Proud Axis power doomily vagueposting about socialism. Fork found in kitchen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children) and by most people you mean most liberals whose brains haven't yet developed capacity for critical thinking permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elixir_fan@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago I love your snark o7 permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago Plenty of people already did in this very thread dumbo. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago Plenty of people already did in this very thread dumbo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago Plenty of people already did in this very thread dumbo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago Other people have talked about socialist revolutions, which are indeed great examples. But we can't forget the global bourgeois revolutions that lead to capitalism throughout the world. Without those we would still be stuck in feudalism. While capitalism has many flaws it's much better than feudalism in many ways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 15 points 1 month ago ^ this kind of idiocy is precisely why people need to read theory https://redsails.org/witbd-rs-abridged/ permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Donkter@lemmy.world -8 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (2 children) Yeah you can spot these types pretty easily in this thread. What are the tells? any time you see someone respond to the truth: “there is a two party system in every election and one of them will win whether you like it or not” With: “both sides do genocide” So you deny that the Democrats are contributing towards the genocide? Or that you're just being honest and that you don't care? It’s obvious they might not actually tie their own shoelaces. It's obvious you lot have no object permanence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Donkter@lemmy.world -6 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago The point is that it’s a non-sequiter. “Buh both sides.” Isn’t a sane response to “one of them is going to win anyway.” So what is your thought on the genocide? Seems like you can justify voting for it since "one of them is going to win anyway"? permalink fedilink source parent [–] m532@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago I can't tie my shoes (therefore I have geox) Explain how that's diminishing the validity of my comments. Take the mask off. Show everyone your true form. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (2 children) Yeah you can spot these types pretty easily in this thread. What are the tells? any time you see someone respond to the truth: “there is a two party system in every election and one of them will win whether you like it or not” With: “both sides do genocide” So you deny that the Democrats are contributing towards the genocide? Or that you're just being honest and that you don't care? It’s obvious they might not actually tie their own shoelaces. It's obvious you lot have no object permanence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Donkter@lemmy.world -6 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago The point is that it’s a non-sequiter. “Buh both sides.” Isn’t a sane response to “one of them is going to win anyway.” So what is your thought on the genocide? Seems like you can justify voting for it since "one of them is going to win anyway"? permalink fedilink source parent [–] m532@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago I can't tie my shoes (therefore I have geox) Explain how that's diminishing the validity of my comments. Take the mask off. Show everyone your true form. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Donkter@lemmy.world -6 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago The point is that it’s a non-sequiter. “Buh both sides.” Isn’t a sane response to “one of them is going to win anyway.” So what is your thought on the genocide? Seems like you can justify voting for it since "one of them is going to win anyway"? permalink fedilink source parent [–] m532@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago I can't tie my shoes (therefore I have geox) Explain how that's diminishing the validity of my comments. Take the mask off. Show everyone your true form. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago The point is that it’s a non-sequiter. “Buh both sides.” Isn’t a sane response to “one of them is going to win anyway.” So what is your thought on the genocide? Seems like you can justify voting for it since "one of them is going to win anyway"? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] m532@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago I can't tie my shoes (therefore I have geox) Explain how that's diminishing the validity of my comments. Take the mask off. Show everyone your true form. permalink fedilink source parent