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[–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (14 children) China, Russia, Vietnam, Cuba permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago But the US/west continuously try to destroy their economies, kill their leaders, foment social unrest, commit sabotage. Clearly the concept is a failure. ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children) don't forget DPRK and Laos permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Certainly the DPRK, I am not very well read on Laos however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 1 month ago Laos doesn't get much attention because they haven't had much chance to develop after the US razed the whole country to the ground and left a bunch of mines and unexploded ordinance that are still being removed to this day. But they do have a communist party in charge, and China has been actively helping them recently. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -14 points 1 month ago (10 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (3 children) By almost every metric they were massively successful seeing some of the largest leaps in life expectancy in history side by side with the largest strides in poverty alleviation, infant mortality and more. If you exclude just China alone from global poverty statistics global poverty by headcount is worse today than in 1981. Not that you really care you just want to pontificate from your soapbox about "the silly Marxists" who dare to actually wish for and push for better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago Americans care about freedom. You should probably learn this So we've moved from most people to Americans. Interesting. Also given America has the largest prison population in the world in raw numbers not even per capita I'm not sure that's particularly true, especially when American prisons are by design essentially slavery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Americans care about freedom Yes the freedom to be free to be terrible and racist to others, or be free to appear to get the chance to be extraordinarily wealthy not anything related to actual freedom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Your argument is that the revolutions were unsuccessful. In what way is the PRC worse than the republic of china? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) "Uhh sure peoples lives got twice as long and they went from feudalism to space in one lifetime and are now the dominant world power but OH THE NONSPECIFIC COMMUNIST HORRORS, OHHH HOW TERRIBLY COMMUNISM HAS FAILED." TheFinn Proud Axis power doomily vagueposting about socialism. Fork found in kitchen. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children) and by most people you mean most liberals whose brains haven't yet developed capacity for critical thinking permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elixir_fan@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago I love your snark o7 permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago Plenty of people already did in this very thread dumbo. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago But the US/west continuously try to destroy their economies, kill their leaders, foment social unrest, commit sabotage. Clearly the concept is a failure. ;) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children) don't forget DPRK and Laos permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Certainly the DPRK, I am not very well read on Laos however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 1 month ago Laos doesn't get much attention because they haven't had much chance to develop after the US razed the whole country to the ground and left a bunch of mines and unexploded ordinance that are still being removed to this day. But they do have a communist party in charge, and China has been actively helping them recently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Certainly the DPRK, I am not very well read on Laos however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 1 month ago Laos doesn't get much attention because they haven't had much chance to develop after the US razed the whole country to the ground and left a bunch of mines and unexploded ordinance that are still being removed to this day. But they do have a communist party in charge, and China has been actively helping them recently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 1 month ago Laos doesn't get much attention because they haven't had much chance to develop after the US razed the whole country to the ground and left a bunch of mines and unexploded ordinance that are still being removed to this day. But they do have a communist party in charge, and China has been actively helping them recently. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -14 points 1 month ago (10 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (3 children) By almost every metric they were massively successful seeing some of the largest leaps in life expectancy in history side by side with the largest strides in poverty alleviation, infant mortality and more. If you exclude just China alone from global poverty statistics global poverty by headcount is worse today than in 1981. Not that you really care you just want to pontificate from your soapbox about "the silly Marxists" who dare to actually wish for and push for better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago Americans care about freedom. You should probably learn this So we've moved from most people to Americans. Interesting. Also given America has the largest prison population in the world in raw numbers not even per capita I'm not sure that's particularly true, especially when American prisons are by design essentially slavery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Americans care about freedom Yes the freedom to be free to be terrible and racist to others, or be free to appear to get the chance to be extraordinarily wealthy not anything related to actual freedom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Your argument is that the revolutions were unsuccessful. In what way is the PRC worse than the republic of china? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) "Uhh sure peoples lives got twice as long and they went from feudalism to space in one lifetime and are now the dominant world power but OH THE NONSPECIFIC COMMUNIST HORRORS, OHHH HOW TERRIBLY COMMUNISM HAS FAILED." TheFinn Proud Axis power doomily vagueposting about socialism. Fork found in kitchen. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children) and by most people you mean most liberals whose brains haven't yet developed capacity for critical thinking permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elixir_fan@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago I love your snark o7 permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago Plenty of people already did in this very thread dumbo. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (3 children) By almost every metric they were massively successful seeing some of the largest leaps in life expectancy in history side by side with the largest strides in poverty alleviation, infant mortality and more. If you exclude just China alone from global poverty statistics global poverty by headcount is worse today than in 1981. Not that you really care you just want to pontificate from your soapbox about "the silly Marxists" who dare to actually wish for and push for better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago Americans care about freedom. You should probably learn this So we've moved from most people to Americans. Interesting. Also given America has the largest prison population in the world in raw numbers not even per capita I'm not sure that's particularly true, especially when American prisons are by design essentially slavery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Americans care about freedom Yes the freedom to be free to be terrible and racist to others, or be free to appear to get the chance to be extraordinarily wealthy not anything related to actual freedom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago Americans care about freedom. You should probably learn this So we've moved from most people to Americans. Interesting. Also given America has the largest prison population in the world in raw numbers not even per capita I'm not sure that's particularly true, especially when American prisons are by design essentially slavery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Americans care about freedom Yes the freedom to be free to be terrible and racist to others, or be free to appear to get the chance to be extraordinarily wealthy not anything related to actual freedom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago Americans care about freedom. You should probably learn this So we've moved from most people to Americans. Interesting. Also given America has the largest prison population in the world in raw numbers not even per capita I'm not sure that's particularly true, especially when American prisons are by design essentially slavery. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) Americans care about freedom Yes the freedom to be free to be terrible and racist to others, or be free to appear to get the chance to be extraordinarily wealthy not anything related to actual freedom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago Education and exposure to other cultures. Again things Americans are happy to rail against while calling their attacks on it freedom permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Your argument is that the revolutions were unsuccessful. In what way is the PRC worse than the republic of china? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) "Uhh sure peoples lives got twice as long and they went from feudalism to space in one lifetime and are now the dominant world power but OH THE NONSPECIFIC COMMUNIST HORRORS, OHHH HOW TERRIBLY COMMUNISM HAS FAILED." TheFinn Proud Axis power doomily vagueposting about socialism. Fork found in kitchen. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -8 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Your argument is that the revolutions were unsuccessful. In what way is the PRC worse than the republic of china? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) "Uhh sure peoples lives got twice as long and they went from feudalism to space in one lifetime and are now the dominant world power but OH THE NONSPECIFIC COMMUNIST HORRORS, OHHH HOW TERRIBLY COMMUNISM HAS FAILED." TheFinn Proud Axis power doomily vagueposting about socialism. Fork found in kitchen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Your argument is that the revolutions were unsuccessful. In what way is the PRC worse than the republic of china? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) "Uhh sure peoples lives got twice as long and they went from feudalism to space in one lifetime and are now the dominant world power but OH THE NONSPECIFIC COMMUNIST HORRORS, OHHH HOW TERRIBLY COMMUNISM HAS FAILED." TheFinn Proud Axis power doomily vagueposting about socialism. Fork found in kitchen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children) and by most people you mean most liberals whose brains haven't yet developed capacity for critical thinking permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elixir_fan@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago I love your snark o7 permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago Plenty of people already did in this very thread dumbo. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago Plenty of people already did in this very thread dumbo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 month ago Plenty of people already did in this very thread dumbo. permalink fedilink source parent