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Capitalism is not Left
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[–] 7 points 1 month ago (10 children)

This is an argument born of semantics.

I'm somewhat left but live in a capitalist society.

I don't really care if that leads you to categorise me as "not leftist'

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  • [–] [S, A] 6 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Being in a capitalist system isn’t the decider, propping it up is. Do you want to overthrow the capitalist system or do you want to add safeguards to make it more palatable?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    That's a pretty big question.

    I think, all things considered I do not wish to "overthrow the capitalist system", so that means I'm in the latter category.

    That said, I believe that overthrowing the capitalist system would require much suffering. Violent armed conflict. Famine. Social upheaval and unrest. Additionally, with a strong likelihood that the processed would be derailed and produce a dystopia rather than the socialist age the revolutionists might intend.

    That being the case the portion of people who would belong to the former category if fully informed would be infinitessimal.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    That said, I believe that overthrowing the capitalist system would require much suffering. Violent armed conflict. Famine. Social upheaval and unrest. Additionally, with a strong likelihood that the processed would be derailed and produce a dystopia rather than the socialist age the revolutionists might intend.

    This is a right wing view because it ignores the bloodshed and suffering currently being furthered by capitalist exploitation. It implicitly supports a hierarchy where we can live in peace while the global South is destroyed and robbed. Do you not see the armed conflict currently being waged by capitalists to manipulate the flow of resources like oil across the world? Or look at how many people die each year due to exposure and starvation in capitalist countries. The wealth of the working people is stolen everyday to fund genocide and imposed famines.

    We live in a murderous horrific dystopia, the only difference is you are able to distance yourself from it because of the way in which imperialism inflicts the suffering on foreign people overseas while protecting the chosen people at home.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (3 children)

    What happened in France after the French Revolution?

    Spoiler: they almost immediately became a dictatorship. And no, not the kind tankies like.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    So let's just give up and let everyone in the world die in misery and never try to make anything better. Children are being murdered everyday by US aligned imperialism, my parents died too young because of the poor health effects from poverty, I see struggling homeless people constantly. If you don't want to change anything you are massively privileged or have no empathy for suffering people.

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