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[+] clifmo@programming.dev 23 points 1 month ago (24 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source hideshow 24 child comments replies: [–] audrbox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago* (4 children) Hey, instead of arguing on Lemmy about who is being more useless, can we just try to stop the damn child killing machine together permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (3 children) Before grabbing my rifle, I'd appreciate it if people would at least try voting first. Vote Democrat in the general election for harm reduction, and vote in the Democratic primaries to move the party left. Gas prices are at record highs. Whatever your thoughts are on cars or how gas may still be too cheap considering the damage it causes or whatever, the reality is that high gas prices have historically been really bad for incumbent parties in mid-terms. With that and the historic disapproval rating of Trump, there hasn't been an election more primed for a flip than this one in our lifetimes. It's why they're working so fucking hard to supress votes. They know they're in real trouble. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] audrbox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago I've been voting in every major election since 2016, and I don't regret doing it but I do feel myself becoming more and more disillusioned each time about whether the sort of democratic machinery we've built is even capable of producing the sort of radical change the American empire desperately needs. I really can't blame people who've concluded that voting isn't going to work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Before grabbing my rifle, I’d appreciate it if people would at least try voting first. It has been two hundred years of trying voting and we're now 1943 Germany. Simply be honest: there is nothing on Earth that would compel you to pick up your rifle just so long as it wasn't happening to you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago People have tried voting for hundreds of years. Not once has the working class had power, beyond perhaps the brief period of reconstruction before the capitalists in the north worked with the capitalists in the south to put a stop to it. The idea that the DNC can be "pushed left" is based on a belief that the state exists outside of class society, rather than being built upon it. The capitalist state isn't a capitalist state because capitalists control it, but because it is shaped and reinforced by the capitalist system it rests on top of. You cannot change that by simply changing who runs it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 month ago (18 children) It can only be changed by liberals waking up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (18 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago* (1 child) The meme implies we should guillotine powerful people that kill foreign children permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] absentbird@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago The meme doesn't really say anything about what should be done. It's describing the current situation in a way that highlights the ineffectiveness of electoral politics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (12 children) there's more than 2 parties you can vote for and the meme shows why the 2 dominant parties are no different where it matters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -11 points 1 month ago (12 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (7 children) Which is still far more chance of changing things than you get by voting more power to the people actively opposed to changing anything that benefits their donors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago ceding your choice, you enable the worse outcome The worse outcome is either Wall St fellating warmonger winning . The worse outcome is ShitLibs like you getting their wish to return to the pre-Trump status quo. you're an accelerationist above all else. Thanks for making it so obvious this early on the convo that you don't know what the words you're using mean. It'll save a lot of confusion later permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (4 children) the assumption that you're ceding your choice or that your choice is going to make a difference is were reality gets disconnected. the fact of the matter is, we've been voting this way for most of a century now and it has already lead us to the same places that your understanding of accelerationism would lead us to anyways -- climate change that's guaranteed to fuck up human civilization; a panopticon powered by AI, financed by genociders, and will keep feeding off your body for the rest of your life like you're in the matrix; and a ruling epstein class that's so privileged it can literally publicly flaunt it's depraved desires to fuck/kill children with zero repercussions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (3 children) the meme is pointing out the willful ignorance induced blindspot that liberal smugness makes impossible to address -- the same willful ignorance that makes this meme feel like it's doing nothing more chastising. and these conversations are necessary since history has already proven that we keep doing the same thing over and over again and we keep getting the same results -- yet americans chose to ignore history and have fooled themselves into believing that we can continue to keep doing the same thing anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) One of us is having a conversation about memes in the memes community. and it's not you because you're incapable of understanding the point of the meme annd the rest of us who do understand it are trying to explain to to the rest of you who don't understand it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child) pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it's fair game to talk about it -- the disconnect is that you're incapable of understanding it because you don't have the background understanding it requires. that doesn't mean you're stupid or dumb -- i used to be a liberal so i can understand that how i also wouldn't have been able to understand it if i hadn't put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago Accelerationism isn't "make things bad by burning them down," it's accelerating the accumulation of capital and therefore the collapse of capitalism by supporting the most competent imperialists, which in this case would mean supporting the DNC. The communist take is to oppose both the DNC and GOP, the accelerationist take is to support the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) you should not expect anything to change by voting and history proves that substantial & enduring changes can only comes from us. still you should vote, even if it's for your dog, but there are better uses for it. the epstein class assumes that you will vote for one of their approved parties, so cooperating in this system the way they want you to only serves to help validate it at best. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) voting on lemmy doesn't matter -- only the stomach you have for questioning your own indoctrination does. voting for your dog isn't realistic, but voting for psl or green or communist is realistic and many countries have been doing it for decades and things are much better for their people as result compared to americans. voting to change anything also isn't realistic, but mexico proved that it was still possible in 2017 and that's why they have president shienbaum while we're stuck with president trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -6 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago only if you refuse to educate yourself on what it means. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago cry more about it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) No, it just says you need to stay awake the other 729 days of the biannual cycle. You obviously don't want to do that, so you pretend it says something it doesn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) That would be because you don't want to. You want to vote for "the good guys" and go back to brunch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Not arsed enough to actually go check, but I'm pretty sure you're the only person I replied to at all, And if the meme is tired your plaintive whining about "why won't you all just vote for the blue genocide team so I can check back out" is fucking exhausted. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] audrbox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago* (4 children) Hey, instead of arguing on Lemmy about who is being more useless, can we just try to stop the damn child killing machine together permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (3 children) Before grabbing my rifle, I'd appreciate it if people would at least try voting first. Vote Democrat in the general election for harm reduction, and vote in the Democratic primaries to move the party left. Gas prices are at record highs. Whatever your thoughts are on cars or how gas may still be too cheap considering the damage it causes or whatever, the reality is that high gas prices have historically been really bad for incumbent parties in mid-terms. With that and the historic disapproval rating of Trump, there hasn't been an election more primed for a flip than this one in our lifetimes. It's why they're working so fucking hard to supress votes. They know they're in real trouble. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] audrbox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago I've been voting in every major election since 2016, and I don't regret doing it but I do feel myself becoming more and more disillusioned each time about whether the sort of democratic machinery we've built is even capable of producing the sort of radical change the American empire desperately needs. I really can't blame people who've concluded that voting isn't going to work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Before grabbing my rifle, I’d appreciate it if people would at least try voting first. It has been two hundred years of trying voting and we're now 1943 Germany. Simply be honest: there is nothing on Earth that would compel you to pick up your rifle just so long as it wasn't happening to you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago People have tried voting for hundreds of years. Not once has the working class had power, beyond perhaps the brief period of reconstruction before the capitalists in the north worked with the capitalists in the south to put a stop to it. The idea that the DNC can be "pushed left" is based on a belief that the state exists outside of class society, rather than being built upon it. The capitalist state isn't a capitalist state because capitalists control it, but because it is shaped and reinforced by the capitalist system it rests on top of. You cannot change that by simply changing who runs it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (3 children) Before grabbing my rifle, I'd appreciate it if people would at least try voting first. Vote Democrat in the general election for harm reduction, and vote in the Democratic primaries to move the party left. Gas prices are at record highs. Whatever your thoughts are on cars or how gas may still be too cheap considering the damage it causes or whatever, the reality is that high gas prices have historically been really bad for incumbent parties in mid-terms. With that and the historic disapproval rating of Trump, there hasn't been an election more primed for a flip than this one in our lifetimes. It's why they're working so fucking hard to supress votes. They know they're in real trouble. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] audrbox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago I've been voting in every major election since 2016, and I don't regret doing it but I do feel myself becoming more and more disillusioned each time about whether the sort of democratic machinery we've built is even capable of producing the sort of radical change the American empire desperately needs. I really can't blame people who've concluded that voting isn't going to work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Before grabbing my rifle, I’d appreciate it if people would at least try voting first. It has been two hundred years of trying voting and we're now 1943 Germany. Simply be honest: there is nothing on Earth that would compel you to pick up your rifle just so long as it wasn't happening to you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago People have tried voting for hundreds of years. Not once has the working class had power, beyond perhaps the brief period of reconstruction before the capitalists in the north worked with the capitalists in the south to put a stop to it. The idea that the DNC can be "pushed left" is based on a belief that the state exists outside of class society, rather than being built upon it. The capitalist state isn't a capitalist state because capitalists control it, but because it is shaped and reinforced by the capitalist system it rests on top of. You cannot change that by simply changing who runs it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] audrbox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago I've been voting in every major election since 2016, and I don't regret doing it but I do feel myself becoming more and more disillusioned each time about whether the sort of democratic machinery we've built is even capable of producing the sort of radical change the American empire desperately needs. I really can't blame people who've concluded that voting isn't going to work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Before grabbing my rifle, I’d appreciate it if people would at least try voting first. It has been two hundred years of trying voting and we're now 1943 Germany. Simply be honest: there is nothing on Earth that would compel you to pick up your rifle just so long as it wasn't happening to you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago People have tried voting for hundreds of years. Not once has the working class had power, beyond perhaps the brief period of reconstruction before the capitalists in the north worked with the capitalists in the south to put a stop to it. The idea that the DNC can be "pushed left" is based on a belief that the state exists outside of class society, rather than being built upon it. The capitalist state isn't a capitalist state because capitalists control it, but because it is shaped and reinforced by the capitalist system it rests on top of. You cannot change that by simply changing who runs it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 month ago (18 children) It can only be changed by liberals waking up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (18 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago* (1 child) The meme implies we should guillotine powerful people that kill foreign children permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] absentbird@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago The meme doesn't really say anything about what should be done. It's describing the current situation in a way that highlights the ineffectiveness of electoral politics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (12 children) there's more than 2 parties you can vote for and the meme shows why the 2 dominant parties are no different where it matters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -11 points 1 month ago (12 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (7 children) Which is still far more chance of changing things than you get by voting more power to the people actively opposed to changing anything that benefits their donors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago ceding your choice, you enable the worse outcome The worse outcome is either Wall St fellating warmonger winning . The worse outcome is ShitLibs like you getting their wish to return to the pre-Trump status quo. you're an accelerationist above all else. Thanks for making it so obvious this early on the convo that you don't know what the words you're using mean. It'll save a lot of confusion later permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (4 children) the assumption that you're ceding your choice or that your choice is going to make a difference is were reality gets disconnected. the fact of the matter is, we've been voting this way for most of a century now and it has already lead us to the same places that your understanding of accelerationism would lead us to anyways -- climate change that's guaranteed to fuck up human civilization; a panopticon powered by AI, financed by genociders, and will keep feeding off your body for the rest of your life like you're in the matrix; and a ruling epstein class that's so privileged it can literally publicly flaunt it's depraved desires to fuck/kill children with zero repercussions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (3 children) the meme is pointing out the willful ignorance induced blindspot that liberal smugness makes impossible to address -- the same willful ignorance that makes this meme feel like it's doing nothing more chastising. and these conversations are necessary since history has already proven that we keep doing the same thing over and over again and we keep getting the same results -- yet americans chose to ignore history and have fooled themselves into believing that we can continue to keep doing the same thing anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) One of us is having a conversation about memes in the memes community. and it's not you because you're incapable of understanding the point of the meme annd the rest of us who do understand it are trying to explain to to the rest of you who don't understand it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child) pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it's fair game to talk about it -- the disconnect is that you're incapable of understanding it because you don't have the background understanding it requires. that doesn't mean you're stupid or dumb -- i used to be a liberal so i can understand that how i also wouldn't have been able to understand it if i hadn't put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago Accelerationism isn't "make things bad by burning them down," it's accelerating the accumulation of capital and therefore the collapse of capitalism by supporting the most competent imperialists, which in this case would mean supporting the DNC. The communist take is to oppose both the DNC and GOP, the accelerationist take is to support the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) you should not expect anything to change by voting and history proves that substantial & enduring changes can only comes from us. still you should vote, even if it's for your dog, but there are better uses for it. the epstein class assumes that you will vote for one of their approved parties, so cooperating in this system the way they want you to only serves to help validate it at best. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) voting on lemmy doesn't matter -- only the stomach you have for questioning your own indoctrination does. voting for your dog isn't realistic, but voting for psl or green or communist is realistic and many countries have been doing it for decades and things are much better for their people as result compared to americans. voting to change anything also isn't realistic, but mexico proved that it was still possible in 2017 and that's why they have president shienbaum while we're stuck with president trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -6 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago only if you refuse to educate yourself on what it means. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago cry more about it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) No, it just says you need to stay awake the other 729 days of the biannual cycle. You obviously don't want to do that, so you pretend it says something it doesn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) That would be because you don't want to. You want to vote for "the good guys" and go back to brunch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Not arsed enough to actually go check, but I'm pretty sure you're the only person I replied to at all, And if the meme is tired your plaintive whining about "why won't you all just vote for the blue genocide team so I can check back out" is fucking exhausted. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (18 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago* (1 child) The meme implies we should guillotine powerful people that kill foreign children permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] absentbird@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago The meme doesn't really say anything about what should be done. It's describing the current situation in a way that highlights the ineffectiveness of electoral politics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (12 children) there's more than 2 parties you can vote for and the meme shows why the 2 dominant parties are no different where it matters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -11 points 1 month ago (12 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (7 children) Which is still far more chance of changing things than you get by voting more power to the people actively opposed to changing anything that benefits their donors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago ceding your choice, you enable the worse outcome The worse outcome is either Wall St fellating warmonger winning . The worse outcome is ShitLibs like you getting their wish to return to the pre-Trump status quo. you're an accelerationist above all else. Thanks for making it so obvious this early on the convo that you don't know what the words you're using mean. It'll save a lot of confusion later permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (4 children) the assumption that you're ceding your choice or that your choice is going to make a difference is were reality gets disconnected. the fact of the matter is, we've been voting this way for most of a century now and it has already lead us to the same places that your understanding of accelerationism would lead us to anyways -- climate change that's guaranteed to fuck up human civilization; a panopticon powered by AI, financed by genociders, and will keep feeding off your body for the rest of your life like you're in the matrix; and a ruling epstein class that's so privileged it can literally publicly flaunt it's depraved desires to fuck/kill children with zero repercussions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (3 children) the meme is pointing out the willful ignorance induced blindspot that liberal smugness makes impossible to address -- the same willful ignorance that makes this meme feel like it's doing nothing more chastising. and these conversations are necessary since history has already proven that we keep doing the same thing over and over again and we keep getting the same results -- yet americans chose to ignore history and have fooled themselves into believing that we can continue to keep doing the same thing anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) One of us is having a conversation about memes in the memes community. and it's not you because you're incapable of understanding the point of the meme annd the rest of us who do understand it are trying to explain to to the rest of you who don't understand it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child) pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it's fair game to talk about it -- the disconnect is that you're incapable of understanding it because you don't have the background understanding it requires. that doesn't mean you're stupid or dumb -- i used to be a liberal so i can understand that how i also wouldn't have been able to understand it if i hadn't put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago Accelerationism isn't "make things bad by burning them down," it's accelerating the accumulation of capital and therefore the collapse of capitalism by supporting the most competent imperialists, which in this case would mean supporting the DNC. The communist take is to oppose both the DNC and GOP, the accelerationist take is to support the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) you should not expect anything to change by voting and history proves that substantial & enduring changes can only comes from us. still you should vote, even if it's for your dog, but there are better uses for it. the epstein class assumes that you will vote for one of their approved parties, so cooperating in this system the way they want you to only serves to help validate it at best. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) voting on lemmy doesn't matter -- only the stomach you have for questioning your own indoctrination does. voting for your dog isn't realistic, but voting for psl or green or communist is realistic and many countries have been doing it for decades and things are much better for their people as result compared to americans. voting to change anything also isn't realistic, but mexico proved that it was still possible in 2017 and that's why they have president shienbaum while we're stuck with president trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -6 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago only if you refuse to educate yourself on what it means. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago cry more about it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) No, it just says you need to stay awake the other 729 days of the biannual cycle. You obviously don't want to do that, so you pretend it says something it doesn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) That would be because you don't want to. You want to vote for "the good guys" and go back to brunch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Not arsed enough to actually go check, but I'm pretty sure you're the only person I replied to at all, And if the meme is tired your plaintive whining about "why won't you all just vote for the blue genocide team so I can check back out" is fucking exhausted. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago* (1 child) The meme implies we should guillotine powerful people that kill foreign children permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] absentbird@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago The meme doesn't really say anything about what should be done. It's describing the current situation in a way that highlights the ineffectiveness of electoral politics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago The meme doesn't really say anything about what should be done. It's describing the current situation in a way that highlights the ineffectiveness of electoral politics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (12 children) there's more than 2 parties you can vote for and the meme shows why the 2 dominant parties are no different where it matters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -11 points 1 month ago (12 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (7 children) Which is still far more chance of changing things than you get by voting more power to the people actively opposed to changing anything that benefits their donors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago ceding your choice, you enable the worse outcome The worse outcome is either Wall St fellating warmonger winning . The worse outcome is ShitLibs like you getting their wish to return to the pre-Trump status quo. you're an accelerationist above all else. Thanks for making it so obvious this early on the convo that you don't know what the words you're using mean. It'll save a lot of confusion later permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (4 children) the assumption that you're ceding your choice or that your choice is going to make a difference is were reality gets disconnected. the fact of the matter is, we've been voting this way for most of a century now and it has already lead us to the same places that your understanding of accelerationism would lead us to anyways -- climate change that's guaranteed to fuck up human civilization; a panopticon powered by AI, financed by genociders, and will keep feeding off your body for the rest of your life like you're in the matrix; and a ruling epstein class that's so privileged it can literally publicly flaunt it's depraved desires to fuck/kill children with zero repercussions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (3 children) the meme is pointing out the willful ignorance induced blindspot that liberal smugness makes impossible to address -- the same willful ignorance that makes this meme feel like it's doing nothing more chastising. and these conversations are necessary since history has already proven that we keep doing the same thing over and over again and we keep getting the same results -- yet americans chose to ignore history and have fooled themselves into believing that we can continue to keep doing the same thing anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) One of us is having a conversation about memes in the memes community. and it's not you because you're incapable of understanding the point of the meme annd the rest of us who do understand it are trying to explain to to the rest of you who don't understand it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child) pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it's fair game to talk about it -- the disconnect is that you're incapable of understanding it because you don't have the background understanding it requires. that doesn't mean you're stupid or dumb -- i used to be a liberal so i can understand that how i also wouldn't have been able to understand it if i hadn't put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago Accelerationism isn't "make things bad by burning them down," it's accelerating the accumulation of capital and therefore the collapse of capitalism by supporting the most competent imperialists, which in this case would mean supporting the DNC. The communist take is to oppose both the DNC and GOP, the accelerationist take is to support the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) you should not expect anything to change by voting and history proves that substantial & enduring changes can only comes from us. still you should vote, even if it's for your dog, but there are better uses for it. the epstein class assumes that you will vote for one of their approved parties, so cooperating in this system the way they want you to only serves to help validate it at best. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) voting on lemmy doesn't matter -- only the stomach you have for questioning your own indoctrination does. voting for your dog isn't realistic, but voting for psl or green or communist is realistic and many countries have been doing it for decades and things are much better for their people as result compared to americans. voting to change anything also isn't realistic, but mexico proved that it was still possible in 2017 and that's why they have president shienbaum while we're stuck with president trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -6 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago only if you refuse to educate yourself on what it means. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago cry more about it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] clifmo@programming.dev -11 points 1 month ago (12 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (7 children) Which is still far more chance of changing things than you get by voting more power to the people actively opposed to changing anything that benefits their donors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago ceding your choice, you enable the worse outcome The worse outcome is either Wall St fellating warmonger winning . The worse outcome is ShitLibs like you getting their wish to return to the pre-Trump status quo. you're an accelerationist above all else. Thanks for making it so obvious this early on the convo that you don't know what the words you're using mean. It'll save a lot of confusion later permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (4 children) the assumption that you're ceding your choice or that your choice is going to make a difference is were reality gets disconnected. the fact of the matter is, we've been voting this way for most of a century now and it has already lead us to the same places that your understanding of accelerationism would lead us to anyways -- climate change that's guaranteed to fuck up human civilization; a panopticon powered by AI, financed by genociders, and will keep feeding off your body for the rest of your life like you're in the matrix; and a ruling epstein class that's so privileged it can literally publicly flaunt it's depraved desires to fuck/kill children with zero repercussions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (3 children) the meme is pointing out the willful ignorance induced blindspot that liberal smugness makes impossible to address -- the same willful ignorance that makes this meme feel like it's doing nothing more chastising. and these conversations are necessary since history has already proven that we keep doing the same thing over and over again and we keep getting the same results -- yet americans chose to ignore history and have fooled themselves into believing that we can continue to keep doing the same thing anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) One of us is having a conversation about memes in the memes community. and it's not you because you're incapable of understanding the point of the meme annd the rest of us who do understand it are trying to explain to to the rest of you who don't understand it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child) pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it's fair game to talk about it -- the disconnect is that you're incapable of understanding it because you don't have the background understanding it requires. that doesn't mean you're stupid or dumb -- i used to be a liberal so i can understand that how i also wouldn't have been able to understand it if i hadn't put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago Accelerationism isn't "make things bad by burning them down," it's accelerating the accumulation of capital and therefore the collapse of capitalism by supporting the most competent imperialists, which in this case would mean supporting the DNC. The communist take is to oppose both the DNC and GOP, the accelerationist take is to support the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) you should not expect anything to change by voting and history proves that substantial & enduring changes can only comes from us. still you should vote, even if it's for your dog, but there are better uses for it. the epstein class assumes that you will vote for one of their approved parties, so cooperating in this system the way they want you to only serves to help validate it at best. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) voting on lemmy doesn't matter -- only the stomach you have for questioning your own indoctrination does. voting for your dog isn't realistic, but voting for psl or green or communist is realistic and many countries have been doing it for decades and things are much better for their people as result compared to americans. voting to change anything also isn't realistic, but mexico proved that it was still possible in 2017 and that's why they have president shienbaum while we're stuck with president trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -6 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago only if you refuse to educate yourself on what it means. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago cry more about it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (7 children) Which is still far more chance of changing things than you get by voting more power to the people actively opposed to changing anything that benefits their donors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago ceding your choice, you enable the worse outcome The worse outcome is either Wall St fellating warmonger winning . The worse outcome is ShitLibs like you getting their wish to return to the pre-Trump status quo. you're an accelerationist above all else. Thanks for making it so obvious this early on the convo that you don't know what the words you're using mean. It'll save a lot of confusion later permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (4 children) the assumption that you're ceding your choice or that your choice is going to make a difference is were reality gets disconnected. the fact of the matter is, we've been voting this way for most of a century now and it has already lead us to the same places that your understanding of accelerationism would lead us to anyways -- climate change that's guaranteed to fuck up human civilization; a panopticon powered by AI, financed by genociders, and will keep feeding off your body for the rest of your life like you're in the matrix; and a ruling epstein class that's so privileged it can literally publicly flaunt it's depraved desires to fuck/kill children with zero repercussions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (3 children) the meme is pointing out the willful ignorance induced blindspot that liberal smugness makes impossible to address -- the same willful ignorance that makes this meme feel like it's doing nothing more chastising. and these conversations are necessary since history has already proven that we keep doing the same thing over and over again and we keep getting the same results -- yet americans chose to ignore history and have fooled themselves into believing that we can continue to keep doing the same thing anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) One of us is having a conversation about memes in the memes community. and it's not you because you're incapable of understanding the point of the meme annd the rest of us who do understand it are trying to explain to to the rest of you who don't understand it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child) pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it's fair game to talk about it -- the disconnect is that you're incapable of understanding it because you don't have the background understanding it requires. that doesn't mean you're stupid or dumb -- i used to be a liberal so i can understand that how i also wouldn't have been able to understand it if i hadn't put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago Accelerationism isn't "make things bad by burning them down," it's accelerating the accumulation of capital and therefore the collapse of capitalism by supporting the most competent imperialists, which in this case would mean supporting the DNC. The communist take is to oppose both the DNC and GOP, the accelerationist take is to support the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago ceding your choice, you enable the worse outcome The worse outcome is either Wall St fellating warmonger winning . The worse outcome is ShitLibs like you getting their wish to return to the pre-Trump status quo. you're an accelerationist above all else. Thanks for making it so obvious this early on the convo that you don't know what the words you're using mean. It'll save a lot of confusion later permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (4 children) the assumption that you're ceding your choice or that your choice is going to make a difference is were reality gets disconnected. the fact of the matter is, we've been voting this way for most of a century now and it has already lead us to the same places that your understanding of accelerationism would lead us to anyways -- climate change that's guaranteed to fuck up human civilization; a panopticon powered by AI, financed by genociders, and will keep feeding off your body for the rest of your life like you're in the matrix; and a ruling epstein class that's so privileged it can literally publicly flaunt it's depraved desires to fuck/kill children with zero repercussions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (3 children) the meme is pointing out the willful ignorance induced blindspot that liberal smugness makes impossible to address -- the same willful ignorance that makes this meme feel like it's doing nothing more chastising. and these conversations are necessary since history has already proven that we keep doing the same thing over and over again and we keep getting the same results -- yet americans chose to ignore history and have fooled themselves into believing that we can continue to keep doing the same thing anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) One of us is having a conversation about memes in the memes community. and it's not you because you're incapable of understanding the point of the meme annd the rest of us who do understand it are trying to explain to to the rest of you who don't understand it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child) pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it's fair game to talk about it -- the disconnect is that you're incapable of understanding it because you don't have the background understanding it requires. that doesn't mean you're stupid or dumb -- i used to be a liberal so i can understand that how i also wouldn't have been able to understand it if i hadn't put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago Accelerationism isn't "make things bad by burning them down," it's accelerating the accumulation of capital and therefore the collapse of capitalism by supporting the most competent imperialists, which in this case would mean supporting the DNC. The communist take is to oppose both the DNC and GOP, the accelerationist take is to support the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago ceding your choice, you enable the worse outcome The worse outcome is either Wall St fellating warmonger winning . The worse outcome is ShitLibs like you getting their wish to return to the pre-Trump status quo. you're an accelerationist above all else. Thanks for making it so obvious this early on the convo that you don't know what the words you're using mean. It'll save a lot of confusion later permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (4 children) the assumption that you're ceding your choice or that your choice is going to make a difference is were reality gets disconnected. the fact of the matter is, we've been voting this way for most of a century now and it has already lead us to the same places that your understanding of accelerationism would lead us to anyways -- climate change that's guaranteed to fuck up human civilization; a panopticon powered by AI, financed by genociders, and will keep feeding off your body for the rest of your life like you're in the matrix; and a ruling epstein class that's so privileged it can literally publicly flaunt it's depraved desires to fuck/kill children with zero repercussions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (3 children) the meme is pointing out the willful ignorance induced blindspot that liberal smugness makes impossible to address -- the same willful ignorance that makes this meme feel like it's doing nothing more chastising. and these conversations are necessary since history has already proven that we keep doing the same thing over and over again and we keep getting the same results -- yet americans chose to ignore history and have fooled themselves into believing that we can continue to keep doing the same thing anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) One of us is having a conversation about memes in the memes community. and it's not you because you're incapable of understanding the point of the meme annd the rest of us who do understand it are trying to explain to to the rest of you who don't understand it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child) pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it's fair game to talk about it -- the disconnect is that you're incapable of understanding it because you don't have the background understanding it requires. that doesn't mean you're stupid or dumb -- i used to be a liberal so i can understand that how i also wouldn't have been able to understand it if i hadn't put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] clifmo@programming.dev -9 points 1 month ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (3 children) the meme is pointing out the willful ignorance induced blindspot that liberal smugness makes impossible to address -- the same willful ignorance that makes this meme feel like it's doing nothing more chastising. and these conversations are necessary since history has already proven that we keep doing the same thing over and over again and we keep getting the same results -- yet americans chose to ignore history and have fooled themselves into believing that we can continue to keep doing the same thing anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) One of us is having a conversation about memes in the memes community. and it's not you because you're incapable of understanding the point of the meme annd the rest of us who do understand it are trying to explain to to the rest of you who don't understand it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child) pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it's fair game to talk about it -- the disconnect is that you're incapable of understanding it because you don't have the background understanding it requires. that doesn't mean you're stupid or dumb -- i used to be a liberal so i can understand that how i also wouldn't have been able to understand it if i hadn't put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (3 children) the meme is pointing out the willful ignorance induced blindspot that liberal smugness makes impossible to address -- the same willful ignorance that makes this meme feel like it's doing nothing more chastising. and these conversations are necessary since history has already proven that we keep doing the same thing over and over again and we keep getting the same results -- yet americans chose to ignore history and have fooled themselves into believing that we can continue to keep doing the same thing anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) One of us is having a conversation about memes in the memes community. and it's not you because you're incapable of understanding the point of the meme annd the rest of us who do understand it are trying to explain to to the rest of you who don't understand it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child) pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it's fair game to talk about it -- the disconnect is that you're incapable of understanding it because you don't have the background understanding it requires. that doesn't mean you're stupid or dumb -- i used to be a liberal so i can understand that how i also wouldn't have been able to understand it if i hadn't put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) One of us is having a conversation about memes in the memes community. and it's not you because you're incapable of understanding the point of the meme annd the rest of us who do understand it are trying to explain to to the rest of you who don't understand it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child) pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it's fair game to talk about it -- the disconnect is that you're incapable of understanding it because you don't have the background understanding it requires. that doesn't mean you're stupid or dumb -- i used to be a liberal so i can understand that how i also wouldn't have been able to understand it if i hadn't put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) One of us is having a conversation about memes in the memes community. and it's not you because you're incapable of understanding the point of the meme annd the rest of us who do understand it are trying to explain to to the rest of you who don't understand it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child) pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it's fair game to talk about it -- the disconnect is that you're incapable of understanding it because you don't have the background understanding it requires. that doesn't mean you're stupid or dumb -- i used to be a liberal so i can understand that how i also wouldn't have been able to understand it if i hadn't put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child) pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it's fair game to talk about it -- the disconnect is that you're incapable of understanding it because you don't have the background understanding it requires. that doesn't mean you're stupid or dumb -- i used to be a liberal so i can understand that how i also wouldn't have been able to understand it if i hadn't put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child) pointing out ignorance is not a personal attack and the meme broached the subject so it's fair game to talk about it -- the disconnect is that you're incapable of understanding it because you don't have the background understanding it requires. that doesn't mean you're stupid or dumb -- i used to be a liberal so i can understand that how i also wouldn't have been able to understand it if i hadn't put in the work at dispelling the indoctrination that all americans are born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] clifmo@programming.dev -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago you're projecting. you've shared enough of what you believe in this entire post to make me recognize that i once believed the same thing you do, so i know that disdain will not help in any way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago Accelerationism isn't "make things bad by burning them down," it's accelerating the accumulation of capital and therefore the collapse of capitalism by supporting the most competent imperialists, which in this case would mean supporting the DNC. The communist take is to oppose both the DNC and GOP, the accelerationist take is to support the DNC. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) you should not expect anything to change by voting and history proves that substantial & enduring changes can only comes from us. still you should vote, even if it's for your dog, but there are better uses for it. the epstein class assumes that you will vote for one of their approved parties, so cooperating in this system the way they want you to only serves to help validate it at best. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) voting on lemmy doesn't matter -- only the stomach you have for questioning your own indoctrination does. voting for your dog isn't realistic, but voting for psl or green or communist is realistic and many countries have been doing it for decades and things are much better for their people as result compared to americans. voting to change anything also isn't realistic, but mexico proved that it was still possible in 2017 and that's why they have president shienbaum while we're stuck with president trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -6 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago only if you refuse to educate yourself on what it means. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago cry more about it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] clifmo@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) voting on lemmy doesn't matter -- only the stomach you have for questioning your own indoctrination does. voting for your dog isn't realistic, but voting for psl or green or communist is realistic and many countries have been doing it for decades and things are much better for their people as result compared to americans. voting to change anything also isn't realistic, but mexico proved that it was still possible in 2017 and that's why they have president shienbaum while we're stuck with president trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -6 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago only if you refuse to educate yourself on what it means. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago cry more about it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) voting on lemmy doesn't matter -- only the stomach you have for questioning your own indoctrination does. voting for your dog isn't realistic, but voting for psl or green or communist is realistic and many countries have been doing it for decades and things are much better for their people as result compared to americans. voting to change anything also isn't realistic, but mexico proved that it was still possible in 2017 and that's why they have president shienbaum while we're stuck with president trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -6 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago only if you refuse to educate yourself on what it means. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago cry more about it permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] clifmo@programming.dev -6 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago only if you refuse to educate yourself on what it means. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago cry more about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago only if you refuse to educate yourself on what it means. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) No, it just says you need to stay awake the other 729 days of the biannual cycle. You obviously don't want to do that, so you pretend it says something it doesn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) That would be because you don't want to. You want to vote for "the good guys" and go back to brunch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Not arsed enough to actually go check, but I'm pretty sure you're the only person I replied to at all, And if the meme is tired your plaintive whining about "why won't you all just vote for the blue genocide team so I can check back out" is fucking exhausted. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] clifmo@programming.dev -5 points 1 month ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) That would be because you don't want to. You want to vote for "the good guys" and go back to brunch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Not arsed enough to actually go check, but I'm pretty sure you're the only person I replied to at all, And if the meme is tired your plaintive whining about "why won't you all just vote for the blue genocide team so I can check back out" is fucking exhausted. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) That would be because you don't want to. You want to vote for "the good guys" and go back to brunch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] clifmo@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Not arsed enough to actually go check, but I'm pretty sure you're the only person I replied to at all, And if the meme is tired your plaintive whining about "why won't you all just vote for the blue genocide team so I can check back out" is fucking exhausted. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] clifmo@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Not arsed enough to actually go check, but I'm pretty sure you're the only person I replied to at all, And if the meme is tired your plaintive whining about "why won't you all just vote for the blue genocide team so I can check back out" is fucking exhausted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago Not arsed enough to actually go check, but I'm pretty sure you're the only person I replied to at all, And if the meme is tired your plaintive whining about "why won't you all just vote for the blue genocide team so I can check back out" is fucking exhausted. permalink fedilink source parent
