▲ 449 ▼ GrapheneOS confirmed initial support for Motorola Signature 27 (lemmy.ca) submitted 1 month ago by RelativityRanger@lemmy.ca to c/linuxphones@lemmy.ca 196 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -7 points 1 month ago (10 children) Why would Android phones remove headphone jacks then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago* (7 children) To sell wireless headphones for $100+, higher revenue per person, and provide a non dorky way to listen to stuff through your smartwatch. All of them have wireless earbuds and smart watches. You need to replace them when the non removable battery dies so it's really a wireless headphone subscription. Apple's practice for the watch were the two final iPod nanos. Attaching it to your wrist with a headphone cord running up your arm looked dorky. Apple doesn't do dorky, Android OEMs didn't want smartwatches with headphone jacks to look dorky either. And Android OEMs often copy Apple because Apple is the more stylish one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (6 children) Oop just saw your edit on the other post about the Fairphone. Why does Fairphone keep the 3.5mm jack but also sell Fairbuds? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (3 children) Sorry yes. The fairphone removed the headphone jack in their phones awhile ago. They now sell wireless earbuds, which goes completely against their purported philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (2 children) Yeah seems kind of odd that they would do that. I also noticed the Motorola Moto G Stylus 2026 has a 3.5mm port, but the GrapheneOS phone from Motorola will have removed the 3.5mm port. Motorola sells their own buds. Doesnt seem like a uniformed decision across the company to remove the jack on all models. Im curious who is making the decisions on those products. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) You'll notice mid to high end Motorola phones do not have the headphone jack, that's because they know those segments are more likely to afford being able to pay for their Moto wireless headphones, while mid to low end phones still have it. In North America, where your choices are primarily Apple, Google, Samsung, and Motorola, they are able to capture that part of the market, people who are too poor or unwilling to pay for wireless earbuds, or are unwilling to forfeit the feature to for better specs elsewhere permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago If only those mid-high segments wanted a headphone jack... permalink fedilink source parent [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) So you have options..? And because it's still profitable either way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago Oop, sorry, Canuck corrected me saying Fairphone does not have 3.5mm jacks on Fairphones now permalink fedilink source parent [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) They literally just said the answer. Which I think was obvious tbh. Apple (and Google) literally sell the most losable objects ever made for $200+. They are greedy capitalists. Of course they're gonna try to push you into that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago The Motorola Moto G Stylus 2026 still has 3.5mm ports, the same company that is selling the phone for this GrapheneOS phone, just a different model. They also sell moto buds. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago* (7 children) To sell wireless headphones for $100+, higher revenue per person, and provide a non dorky way to listen to stuff through your smartwatch. All of them have wireless earbuds and smart watches. You need to replace them when the non removable battery dies so it's really a wireless headphone subscription. Apple's practice for the watch were the two final iPod nanos. Attaching it to your wrist with a headphone cord running up your arm looked dorky. Apple doesn't do dorky, Android OEMs didn't want smartwatches with headphone jacks to look dorky either. And Android OEMs often copy Apple because Apple is the more stylish one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (6 children) Oop just saw your edit on the other post about the Fairphone. Why does Fairphone keep the 3.5mm jack but also sell Fairbuds? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (3 children) Sorry yes. The fairphone removed the headphone jack in their phones awhile ago. They now sell wireless earbuds, which goes completely against their purported philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (2 children) Yeah seems kind of odd that they would do that. I also noticed the Motorola Moto G Stylus 2026 has a 3.5mm port, but the GrapheneOS phone from Motorola will have removed the 3.5mm port. Motorola sells their own buds. Doesnt seem like a uniformed decision across the company to remove the jack on all models. Im curious who is making the decisions on those products. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) You'll notice mid to high end Motorola phones do not have the headphone jack, that's because they know those segments are more likely to afford being able to pay for their Moto wireless headphones, while mid to low end phones still have it. In North America, where your choices are primarily Apple, Google, Samsung, and Motorola, they are able to capture that part of the market, people who are too poor or unwilling to pay for wireless earbuds, or are unwilling to forfeit the feature to for better specs elsewhere permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago If only those mid-high segments wanted a headphone jack... permalink fedilink source parent [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) So you have options..? And because it's still profitable either way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago Oop, sorry, Canuck corrected me saying Fairphone does not have 3.5mm jacks on Fairphones now permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (6 children) Oop just saw your edit on the other post about the Fairphone. Why does Fairphone keep the 3.5mm jack but also sell Fairbuds? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (3 children) Sorry yes. The fairphone removed the headphone jack in their phones awhile ago. They now sell wireless earbuds, which goes completely against their purported philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (2 children) Yeah seems kind of odd that they would do that. I also noticed the Motorola Moto G Stylus 2026 has a 3.5mm port, but the GrapheneOS phone from Motorola will have removed the 3.5mm port. Motorola sells their own buds. Doesnt seem like a uniformed decision across the company to remove the jack on all models. Im curious who is making the decisions on those products. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) You'll notice mid to high end Motorola phones do not have the headphone jack, that's because they know those segments are more likely to afford being able to pay for their Moto wireless headphones, while mid to low end phones still have it. In North America, where your choices are primarily Apple, Google, Samsung, and Motorola, they are able to capture that part of the market, people who are too poor or unwilling to pay for wireless earbuds, or are unwilling to forfeit the feature to for better specs elsewhere permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago If only those mid-high segments wanted a headphone jack... permalink fedilink source parent [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) So you have options..? And because it's still profitable either way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago Oop, sorry, Canuck corrected me saying Fairphone does not have 3.5mm jacks on Fairphones now permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (3 children) Sorry yes. The fairphone removed the headphone jack in their phones awhile ago. They now sell wireless earbuds, which goes completely against their purported philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (2 children) Yeah seems kind of odd that they would do that. I also noticed the Motorola Moto G Stylus 2026 has a 3.5mm port, but the GrapheneOS phone from Motorola will have removed the 3.5mm port. Motorola sells their own buds. Doesnt seem like a uniformed decision across the company to remove the jack on all models. Im curious who is making the decisions on those products. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) You'll notice mid to high end Motorola phones do not have the headphone jack, that's because they know those segments are more likely to afford being able to pay for their Moto wireless headphones, while mid to low end phones still have it. In North America, where your choices are primarily Apple, Google, Samsung, and Motorola, they are able to capture that part of the market, people who are too poor or unwilling to pay for wireless earbuds, or are unwilling to forfeit the feature to for better specs elsewhere permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago If only those mid-high segments wanted a headphone jack... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (2 children) Yeah seems kind of odd that they would do that. I also noticed the Motorola Moto G Stylus 2026 has a 3.5mm port, but the GrapheneOS phone from Motorola will have removed the 3.5mm port. Motorola sells their own buds. Doesnt seem like a uniformed decision across the company to remove the jack on all models. Im curious who is making the decisions on those products. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) You'll notice mid to high end Motorola phones do not have the headphone jack, that's because they know those segments are more likely to afford being able to pay for their Moto wireless headphones, while mid to low end phones still have it. In North America, where your choices are primarily Apple, Google, Samsung, and Motorola, they are able to capture that part of the market, people who are too poor or unwilling to pay for wireless earbuds, or are unwilling to forfeit the feature to for better specs elsewhere permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago If only those mid-high segments wanted a headphone jack... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) You'll notice mid to high end Motorola phones do not have the headphone jack, that's because they know those segments are more likely to afford being able to pay for their Moto wireless headphones, while mid to low end phones still have it. In North America, where your choices are primarily Apple, Google, Samsung, and Motorola, they are able to capture that part of the market, people who are too poor or unwilling to pay for wireless earbuds, or are unwilling to forfeit the feature to for better specs elsewhere permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago If only those mid-high segments wanted a headphone jack... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago If only those mid-high segments wanted a headphone jack... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) So you have options..? And because it's still profitable either way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago Oop, sorry, Canuck corrected me saying Fairphone does not have 3.5mm jacks on Fairphones now permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago Oop, sorry, Canuck corrected me saying Fairphone does not have 3.5mm jacks on Fairphones now permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) They literally just said the answer. Which I think was obvious tbh. Apple (and Google) literally sell the most losable objects ever made for $200+. They are greedy capitalists. Of course they're gonna try to push you into that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago The Motorola Moto G Stylus 2026 still has 3.5mm ports, the same company that is selling the phone for this GrapheneOS phone, just a different model. They also sell moto buds. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago The Motorola Moto G Stylus 2026 still has 3.5mm ports, the same company that is selling the phone for this GrapheneOS phone, just a different model. They also sell moto buds. permalink fedilink source parent