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[+] -6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What exactly makes this a cliche? Is it because a lot of people who experienced communism keep saying it? I wonder why that may be.

This isn't a game. This is reporting personal experience. If you have a better experience with communism - lucky you. A lot of people here also had a positive one. Mostly these were communist party officials. Or people who secretly told the authorities about their neighbor's "subversive" and "anti-regime" activities.

I'd like discourage anybody from trying to use communism as a system in their country. It may seem like a good idea, but it isn't.

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    So if I now go through the trouble to find a more recent statistic from the Czech Republic than the one you have from 2011 you will agree that the idea of reviving the communist regime isn't popular here? Right?

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    Yes sorry about that. I replied on my own comment instead of yours, so I wanted to delete that reply, but deleted the parent comment instead by accident. So I had to repost it and then move the comment reply under your reply again. That was a mess :-)

    Other states may have different experiences no doubt. But I will not comment on those because I don't know the background there. I will leave that to residents of those states if you don't mind. I am interested in your own real life experience with communism especially as you go through a lot of trouble to promote the system.

    Why I am commenting here is that your statistics just happen to contain a set of data which I do know a lot about and it is used to "prove" a point it can't prove.

    The point it tries to prove is that "The majority of people that lived in the Soviet Union want it back." (this is literary the title of your article). However any Czech statistic can't be used to prove this as Czech Republic (or Czechoslovakia back then), was never a part of the USSR. The USSR just occupied our state with its army.

    The article linked to that statistic and its poll is from 2011 and talks about the popularity of the past communist regime. I find the results not representative of reality and try to contest them by presenting election results.

    Additionally to that I now actually went through the trouble to find a more recent statistic on the subject. It is from 2022. You'll need to auto-translate it: https://www.seznamzpravy.cz/clanek/domaci-zivot-v-cesku-mame-se-lepe-nez-pred-rokem-1989-polovina-lidi-o-tom-neni-presvedcena-219206

    52% of respondents say they are better off than in the past regime vs 24% who say the opposite.

    There is an interesting breakdown of the statistics as well (differentiating respondents by sex, occupation, education etc) too if you are interested.

    Based on the steady decline of the number of votes for the communist party in the past 35 years and the difference between your statistic from 2011 and the one above from 2022 I believe it is not incorrect to consider the following statement true:

    "A majority of Czech citizens do not want the communist regime to return to their country."

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    I too find the gender rift in the study really surprising. I wouldn't immediately draw the conclusion from it that Czech Republic has become more socially regressive than in the past. My feeling is the opposite when it comes to how many women I see in managerial, political etc roles. Although there is still a lot of improvement to be made. Not to rely solely on my feelings i did pull up the newest Gender Gap index which is available here: https://reports.weforum.org/docs/WEF_GGGR_2025.pdf

    The index is calculated for individual countries which enables to compare the Czech Republic to China for example. I did this out of curiosity and funnily enough - we have the same exact index down to the decimal. So both china and Czech Republic have a lot of progress to do. The entire study is pretty detailed and allow for comparison in various sectors such as income, education, health etc. One interesting aspect I did notice in the European region is that eastern European (read ex-communist) countries, tend to have a lower index. But enough about gender parity.

    The educational aspect of popularity of the communist regime you are mentioning could be explained by a lot of factors. From a blunt "Only uneducated people think communism is a god idea." to a more economical approach such as "People with lower incomes tend to prefer regimes that re-distribute wealth in a significant way". That seems logical and doesn't surprise me at all.

    But we really don't throw people under the bus. There are differences in income, privilege, education, etc. The society isn't homogenous and never will be. But these differences aren't extreme compared to countries with "true" capitalism.

    What we have here probably isn't the "capitalism" you have in mind. It is a democracy with a mostly free-market, with some regulations and checks, some subsidies, somewhat progressive taxation, free healthcare and education for everyone. There is a decent social security "net" as we call it too. It's actually not bad at all.

    As you mention capitalism I would like to declare that I in no means want to defend unchecked capitalism such as we see it in the US. I believe this extreme example is the reason why many people tend to find communism - the other extreme - so attractive. Turns out moderation is key, who would have thought?

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    Of course there is a middle ground. I just posted it as a reply in one of the other comments. This polar view of either or is utter nonsense. It doesn't matter how you change the rules of the system. Being it "capitalism" or "communism" intelligent people will always find ways to navigate thourgh the current mode (whatever it is)l to their advantage - which in the long run will result in an un-equal society. The goal is to set the rules in a way that benefits as many people as possible. You think that in the past regime there weren't any "privileged" individuals? Now people usually say "yes but his family is rich, so he has an advantage". Back then it used to be "yes, but his cousin is the regional secretary of XYZ so of course he won that competition".

    Contrary to what you say the current regime here is democratic not just for a privileged few. Everyone can vote.

    Although I am not happy about the law you mention, it doesn't ban communism as you say. It just added communism on the list of regimes that threaten human rights and should not be promoted. Which I kind of get given the number of... executions and political prisoners we used to have here a few decades ago.

    It isn't perfect what we have, but it is better than it was ten years ago. And that in turn was better than what we had 20 years ago. And that in turn was better... (you get it by now).

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