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KDE is actively proposing a Pro-AI contribution policy, with most rejecting any suggestions for AI use to be disclosed, or any consideration for environmental concerns (invent.kde.org)
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Direct link to the LLM Policy Discussion: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/work_items/187

Example of KDE dev rejecting environmental consideration:

Example of KDE devs not wanting to require LLM use be disclosed.

And all of this is coming right after the debacle with an AI slop project being allowed to give a presentation at Akademy, and the person asking how this was allowed being blocked by KDE:

https://lemmy.nz/post/42029517

as well as the discussion thread bringing up legitimate concerns about AI usage being closed:

https://discuss.kde.org/t/sorry-to-bring-up-a-contentious-topic-kde-ai-llm-policy/46333/164

As someone who genuinely loves KDE, and has even donated to the project multiple times, I sadly have to accept that the majority of KDE have hopped onto the Pro-AI train, and they will not be dissuaded otherwise.

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[–] 27 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Do we have a list of desktops that ban AI?

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  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#desktop-environments

    https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#window-managers

    tl;dr:

    • Lumina, Lumina NG, and GNOME (not mentioned) are good choices of DE
    • bspwm, River, Sway, and Openbox are good choices of WM. The two options in bold have anti-AI policies, while the rest are simply untainted. Openbox is safer than the rest, as it has been feature-complete since 2010, and therefore only gets occasional patches.
    • Niri has also recently changed its policy to ban the use of AI. It is unclear whether they will still use it for code reviews, but from the perceived tone of the text, this will probably also stop.
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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Niri should join that list since this recent commit: https://github.com/niri-wm/niri/commit/7256ccf6274a1f953c6987ade34ea1c0e4944c27

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Good to see that. I was sceptical because literally ~2 days ago I saw a LLM gen'd PR not be outright rejected and the lead dev requested deletion unnecessary comments which meant they were open to the merge. Seeing how the change came yesterday makes far more sense.

    E: Seems like 1 hour (E2: ago*) they even commented on the PR about the new policy: https://github.com/niri-wm/niri/pull/3246#issuecomment-5755531477

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  • [–] [S] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

    Edit: Good find @heliotrope@slrpnk.net, that list increases our options significantly.

    This list contains the only some known DE's that openly reject AI. Basically just a couple window managers.

    Pretty much every major full blown DE accepts or uses AI. Gnome and Cinnamon have no official stances

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Yeah, but GNOME developers mostly dislike AI, so the project could be considered to be at a lower risk of contamination.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    It definitely seems like one of the better options for the full fledged DE's.

    On a related note, while looking through that new list, it lists Sway as a non-AI alternative, but as of a couple weeks ago, this doesn't looks promising: https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/9272

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Conveniently utilizing the hardships that Kenyans face or random ethical concerns about climate change as your motivating factor while being beneficiaries of Françafrique and modern famines in Africa is not a serious position, it's borderline racist.

    Lmao i guess we're racist now for having ethical concerns.

    Really unfortunate, sway was my favourite wm, but even without ai slop, I'm not just gonna keep using it after they call me racist.

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