Have you considered the self defense talk and guns as the problem? All that talk is only a result of guns being allowed in the first place. All the self defense classes I know about revolve around one thing: get yourself to savety asap and alarm people near you. And that is possible when the average joe doesn't own a gun. So I will not respect the decision to shot someone 5 times just because "he acted exactly as they were taught", maybe he should've taken a self defense course for self defense without a gun idk
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