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Waymo pulls over, calls cops on juvenile riders who had 'ghost gun,' authorities say (www.latimes.com)
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This wasn’t the first time Waymo has tattled on alleged troublemakers. In July, Waymo contacted the San Mateo Police Department after two teens were found drinking alcohol and shooting toy guns in the back of a car, authorities said at the time.

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[–] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (18 children)

I would suggest people read the article. Their is no way in hell an Taxi/Uber driver would be ok with kids bringing a "Loaded AR Style Assault Rifle" into their car.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    No Taxi/Uber driver would pull over and lock the kids in while calling the cops either.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago*

    “Am I free to go?” is one of the lawyer-suggested phrases you give when a cop pulls you over (that and exercising your right to remain silent). So in this case, you can ask all you want, no cop is even present, but a robotaxi run by a corporation can apparently detain you and I guarantee it’s somehow considered perfectly legal because it’s in some fine print. Fucking unbelievably clear collusion between the state and capitalists, while also being a violation of constitutional rights. The robotaxi is acting as judge and jury, while not even being able to solidly prove what’s happening.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    It seems like a pretty weird outlier event in which the worst thing did not happen.

    I would want anyone on the street to report children going around with that gun. Call me crazy.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Yes, and, the precedent it sets is scary. What if a waymo camera spots what it thinks is a bag of weed in your pocket in Texas and calls the cops while locking you in? Isn't that false imprisonment or kidnapping? No private citizen or company has the right to retain someone else against their will.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    No private citizen or company has the right to retain someone else against their will.

    Don't you have something called "citizen's arrest" in the US? Like when a shop employee catches a thief, they're allowed to detain them until the cops show up?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    An AI camera in a self driving car is absolutely not a citizen, so therefore cannot do a citizens arrest, even if this fits into that definition.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I agree with that for the most part.

    I'm not sure if being children has another layer to it in this case. To a point, school are not accused of false imprisonment if they "detained" a misbehaving child in detention. It is not obvious to me Waymo did something illegal or immortal.

    But overall I agree we should pay attention and the same facts with an 18 year old would probably be different (gun probably legal, ect).

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    That's more because children are minors, and the parents who are ultimately responsible for the conduct of their children agree to the forms of punishment the school uses. A school can't detain a child indefinitely if a parent shows up to take them home.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Schools aren't because parents give them a right to care for the children involved. It doesn't work that way in a waymo. You can be prevented from leaving a school because from a specific time to a specific time your parents have agreed you will be on the premesis in the care of the faculty.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    And the parents made zero agreements with Waymo before putting their kids in one? Sounds pretty unlikely.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Depends on if Waymo allowed teens (who can sign up for their own accounts and can have debit cards) to sign up without parental consent. If a parent or guardian ordered the Waymo for them? Probably an agreement for that.

    Otherwise though, it's just as likely they entered into no such agreement.

    Of course, they also didn't agree with allow their children to be trapped in the Waymo against their will. Show me that fine print in any ride share service's TOS/EULA etc. I would love to see it.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I would suggest an article that uses the phrase "loaded, AR-style assault rifle" with "ghost gun" in the headline is more concerned with making the situation sound scary than reporting facts and is probably not worth reading anyway.

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