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Paul Keating says Aukus locking Australia into a US war against China, which it would ‘certainly lose’ (www.theguardian.com)
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He's a bit of a prick but he's not wrong. I wonder what Rudd would think were he not currently a diplomat.

Both were pretty clear-eyed about the opportunities of working with China and the futility of standing against them given the insignificance of Australia as anything but a weapons platform for the imperial machine of the USA.

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[–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

I loathe idiotic posturing that reduces politics to aesthetics and reheated opinions served up originally by propagandists.

The world is material, politics are real. We can understand and improve it by analysing it clear-eyed and dispassionately and then find the best way to realise our passions.

You have to live in a fantasy land to think war with china will help anyone.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I tend to agree. Though in reality I don't think we have any stake in a war with China at all. We are insignificant on the world stage with respect to military might and any belief that the US will come save us given their latest track record is copium to say the least. A war for us will mostly just cripple our economy if we take sides.

    Our best bet is to make nice with both and wag our finger when they do something we don't like. Not enough for them to respond, just enough to show we saw the news.

    Reality is humans in general suck, the idea that any one country is better than the other on human rights violations or general populace control is... Naive.

    We can always look to our own back yard with Nauru if we want to be really uncomfortable with ourselves. We aren't saints.

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