halcyoncmdr comments on Ms. Rachel to Match Macklemore’s $1 Million Donation to Support Palestine: ‘I Invite Every Wealthy White Celebrity’ to Do the Same

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago (11 children)

How do you think the breakdown of general wealth and race compare to the breakdown of donations to the assistance of Gaza/Palestinians? I'm willing to bet there's a big discrepancy and a comparative lack of donations from rich white folk.

Calling on the group that is in the best position to assist but is underrepresented isn't a negative... unless you don't actually care about helping and you are just looking for your shitty "gotcha" moment in an online comment, proving you're an insufferable twat.

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[–] chromeleon@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago* (10 children)

We're not talking about the general population. We're discussing rich white celebrities vs rich celebrities of color. My guess is donations from rich white celebrities are basically equal to rich celebrities of color.

A lot of people in this thread like throwing insults around.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago (9 children)

We're not talking about the general population.

Right, neither was I.

My guess is donations from rich white celebrities are basically equal to rich celebrities of color.

And I'm willing to bet it's nowhere near equal, because it never is. I'd bet if we take donations from the wealthy white compared to all other wealthy donations, there would be a very big difference. From both a raw quantity and a percentage of wealth perspective.

A lot of people in this thread like throwing insults around.

When there are a lot of comments that seem to be intentionally misinterpreting what they're responding to, that tends to happen.

Like assuming my previous comment somehow was not in reference to the wealthy despite this entire post being about that.

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[–] chromeleon@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (8 children)

wealthy white celebrities, not wealthy white people. funny you should bring up people intentionally misinterpreting what they're responding to.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago* (7 children)

I didn't say rich white people. I literally quoted you talking about celebrities, and responded to that specific point.

Are you forgetting how conversations work? Or how responding to specific quotes usually works?

Are you intentionally trying to shift the conversation based solely on flawed reading comprehension?

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[–] chromeleon@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

And I’m willing to bet it’s nowhere near equal, because it never is. I’d bet if we take donations from the wealthy white compared to all other wealthy donations, there would be a very big difference. From both a raw quantity and a percentage of wealth perspective.

"wealthy white compared to all other wealthy donations." I don't see the word celebrity in there. Is that what you meant? wealthy white celebrities compared to all other wealthy celebrity donations?

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[–] chromeleon@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

How do you think the breakdown of general wealth and race compare to the breakdown of donations to the assistance of Gaza/Palestinians? I’m willing to bet there’s a big discrepancy and a comparative lack of donations from rich white folk.

again, from your first post: you said "rich white folk", not "rich white celebrities". You're just being obtuse if you think I should think you are talking about celebrities only.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

You're just being obtuse if you think I should think you are talking about celebrities only.

This entire thread is in reference to a Ms. Rachel quote about celebrities specifically.

Why would the resulting conversation not be about celebrities?

You have to be intentionally misinterpreting everything if you can't see how the responses are all connected to the same original point being discussed.

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[–] chromeleon@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I know what the thread is about. When you replied and left out the word celebrity or replaced it with folk, I thought you were changing the subject. I don't think that's unreasonable assumption to make.

I don't agree that rich white celebrities give less than other celebrities. I think that's just wrong.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't agree that rich white celebrities give less than other celebrities. I think that's just wrong.

I'd put money on it when it comes to Gaza/Palestine. Especially if we're talking about movies/tv/music where the Jewish representation in positions of power and influence to make and ruin careers is massively out of balance.

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[–] chromeleon@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 child)

But why would these Jewish people in power ruin white celebrities careers but not black celebrities?

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[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

We're again getting into the difference between raw quantities and percentage here. And looking at raw numbers I think it's pretty safe to say there are more white celebrities overall, and that they represent a larger percentage of celebrity wealth.

It doesn't need to be specifically targeted if the industries are already unbalanced.

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