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[–] 5 points 1 month ago (23 children)

Does someone speak dumb wolf language so that I could understand what is said? OuO

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  • [–] [S] 15 points 1 month ago (22 children)

    First, states have ban on bestiality. Industry somewhat neutral at first, but then the industry start to want to artificially insemination. For several reasons. Farm animals can be resistant of their attempts to force them to mate and artificial insemination makes it harder for them to avoid. Animal farmers want to have fewer male farm animals since it's cheaper to kill them than to pay to raise them. Farmers also want to be able to better artificially select genes meaning more "productivity" (higher slaughter weight, more milk production, more egg production, etc.) even if at the expense of their health. The dairy industry especially wants this because they have to keep a cow pregnant constantly to produce milk

    Process to collect semen for artificial insemination requires restraining farm animal and then forcibly jerking them off, electrically simulating, or similar. Process to inseminate requires restraining cow and then putting hand up their genitals to keep them pregnant.

    No way to collect semen for artificial insemination without removing ban on bestiality since both ends of it break those law. So they lobby hard to add an exemption for themselves

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I’ve seen a video where the female horse kicks the stallion in the face and seems to kill it. So I have to imagine if you have a valuable horses it might be safer to do it artificially as well.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 month ago

    Safer in so far as it gives them little room to say no and make bigger resistance attempts. Neither method exactly is exactly great, to be clear, but neither has to happen. It's something we're choosing to make happen by making this an industry in the first place

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    I had a quick read about it within my country and it is legal, but only if a veterinarian deems a female dog (for example) not to be able to reproduce in a natural way with another male dog.

    So it seems they try to use natural Intercourse asfar as it goes before AI is needed and even then, a vet has to declare it's okay on every animal separately.

    Though was a bit unclear on how it worked on an industrial level. During the years, the laws tightened from just needing some experience to actually needing a vet with a certain insemination subject within his/her grades when finishing university. So it gets stricter as time goes on ^^

    Hope it'll get better in america. The world can only develop as fast as the slowest person.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago

    Neither practice is exactly great, to be clear. The industry does not exactly take cows, pigs, sheeps attempt to say no to mating into account no matter them method. When it's not artificial insemination, they're still holding them down to keep them from leaving

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (15 children)

    they have to keep a cow pregnant constantly to produce milk

    exaggeration doesn't help your credibility

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    It's not really an exaggeration when the cows get an average of 3 months a year "off" being pregnant, and are killed around the age of 6 years old when past their prime milking age.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    you seem to understand exactly what was exaggerated

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    What's your definition of "constantly pregnant"?

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    I didn't care for your semantic interrogation. it's obvious the user was exaggerating for effect.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    How you gonna quibble over semantics then tell them off for semantic interrogation?

    Something being pregnant for 75% of its life is pretty constant.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    it's not 75% of their lives, either. they're not able to breed when they're calves.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Senor Semantics does it again!

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    75% isn't semantics. it's a statistic.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    You just said it wasn't 75%.

    And quibbling over what constitutes 'most of' something's life is semantics. I reckon plenty of folks would view anything over 50% would likely constitute 'most of'.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I never said anything about "most of".

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)