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Pluralistic: LLMs are real, AI is fake (pluralistic.net)
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"AI" – chatbots that wake up, "set their own goals," and "spontaneously" start hacking servers – is fake. It doesn't have "a 10% chance of ending the human race." The Hugging Face hack isn't a mysterious, supernatural occurrence. It's a Python loop and a chatbot. The people responsible didn't accidentally create god: they created autonomous malicious software and then failed to closely monitor it, resulting in it doing something both foreseeable and bad.

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[–] 1 point 1 month ago (6 children)

The only way this kills all humans is if we piss away our drinkable water trying to invent an AI god through LLMs. Or allow it to operate a nuke facility or something in a loop without anyone so much as even approving the “nuke all humans” command.

In other words, it's guaranteed then? There's no way the AI bros will stop developing this anytime soon, regardless of water costs, and the military is already experimenting with it. What will you do if the harness includes the ability to shoot you?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

    Nah, there's stopping points. One of which is that they're burning money and will not be allowed to forever.

    What will you do if the harness includes the ability to shoot you?

    I dunno crybleed I guess. 🤷 Enjoy being scared of your own shadow dude. These things aren't pysop machines, the reality is much grimmer: the disaster will come from the greedy humans acting like greedy little monkeys like always, while those that should oppose them are too busy worrying about Terminator becoming reality.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    That's just how this type of company operates. If they wanted to, they could quit using frontier models and just sell gpt4 subscriptions to people for $10/mo and never die. That revenue could continue funding training costs (albeit much more slowly).

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    The problem with most of these models is that they're too bloated and poorly engineered to ever run forever for that kind of price point per user.

    Again, do some reading. These people are selling dollars for a penny and when they tried to raise the price to a nickel everyone balked and they lowered it again.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    I can run models comparable to that locally on my machine if I wanted to. I haven't read the numbers so I guess I won't argue this point but I do find it at least very surprising.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Open weight / free models are largely where the innovation in the models is actually happening (which makes sense because it's where it has to). OpenAI and to a lesser extent Anthropic are money furnaces that long ago gave up on efficiency and much prefer to stuff trillions of parameters into a model that can only be run if we trap the sun in a dyson sphere or whatever.

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