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Local charity shop rejects pre-spychip PCs. Then they get destroyed. (lemmy.sdf.org)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/58764195

I was in the non-profit shop of a local charity. They accept donations of used computers then resell them to the public. The profit goes to charity. I asked for their oldest machine. It had an AMD chip from the 16h family. Thus, a spychip.

So their oldest machine was still too new for me. I asked why don’t you have anything older? They said the general public would not accept anything older, and so the shop also does not accept anything older. When machines are rejected, they go to a factory that destroys them and recovers the raw metals.

It’s sad to see that pre-spychip machines are being destroyed and that even 2nd-hand customers are being limited to anti-consumer spychip hardware.

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[–] 1 point 2 months ago (6 children)

The charity isn't destroying them, I said YOU should put the work in to maintain them, and your emotionally charged diatribe making accusations and being contrarian completely confirms my indictment of you.

You suck.

Put the work in to either advertise the alternatives you like or call these things the same words as the rest of us. Making up "spychip" and staying it over and over is opaque and harmful to the conversations you are a part of.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

    The charity isn’t destroying them,

    And?

    The charity is rejecting them, not destroying them. Then the city supply chain destroys them. The thread title is accurate.

    I said YOU should put the work in to maintain them,

    Not quite. You said I should work for the charity. That shitty attempt at barking out orders as a self-appointed manager was already defeated. One extra person working for a charity shop while keeping the situation concealed from the fediverse doesn’t solve the global trend of spychip-free machines being destroyed. You’ve been told this already.

    Put the work in to either advertise the alternatives you like or call these things the same words as the rest of us.

    Oof. Call the pre-spychip machines “obsolete PCs on the wrong side of (your imagined) interoperability cutoff” in the face of customers? Your marketing skills suck. But you do you.

    Making up “spychip” and staying it over and over is opaque and harmful to the conversations you are a part of.

    Simply calling pre-spychip machines as “pre-spychip machines” is far more effective and does not involve lying about interoperability. But you do you.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    concealed

    lol not making up problems is concealing, good one

    Customers

    You mean customer, just you with your tinfoil hat

    Still not committing to what's a reasonable age of hardware for the charity to accept hmmm. Definitely because you don't have a well reasoned alternative, you don't want to put in the work to provide this service yourself, and you aren't interested in talking about real problems.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    lol not making up problems is concealing, good one

    You clearly have a problem with exposing the spychips. Nothing is “made up” on my part.

    Put the work in to either advertise the alternatives you like or call these things the same words as the rest of us.

    You mean customer, just you with your tinfoil hat

    The shop has many customers. If I were to “put in work” as you bark out orders, I would not even be a “customer”; I would be a /supplier/. Your arguments are so flimsy you can’t even remember them yourself. You’ve also already been told that 1 person working for 1 charity does not address the global trend.

    Still not committing to what’s a reasonable age of hardware for the charity to accept hmmm.

    Citation needed. First of all, I did not demand that the charity accept anything. I pointed out a problem. One possible solution (of many) would be to accept 15h AMD. If you have not figured out that 15h AMD is among what would be accepted to solve the problem, you are quite lost and confused.

    you don’t want to put in the work to provide this service yourself,

    Citation needed. On the contrary, I am working the problem. But I’m certainly not keen to follow your incompetent management as an acting self-appointed boss.

    you aren’t interested in talking about real problems.

    Obviously not with a corporate boot-licker who has no hope of understanding the problem from the standpoint of those who avoid oppressive tech.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    You are very sad, I hope you get help.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    I don’t have the same hope for you. My charity work is focused on helping people who willfully seek independence from corporate dependencies. If a willful boot-licking cocksucker like yourself came to our org, full-blown peddling corporate loyalty from a high horse, we would likely be unable to help you become more independent. Or certainly the effort would not be well spent. Sadly, you would have to be written off, given our limited resources.

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