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[–] 0 points 1 year ago (10 children)

He support israel as a supermasist jewish state. Thst's the definition of zionism

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (9 children)

    You're right. Bernie Sanders of Piedmont, Ohio has been ranting to anyone who will listen to anyone at the bar about how he supports Israel. I don't support that guy.

    The guy who happens to have the same name who for example made this speech while he was introducing a bill to completely halt US arms sales to Israel. That guy, I support.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (8 children)

    At the same time he reject palestinians right to self defense, he oppose BDS. He used to live in a in a kibbutzim build by Hashomer Hatzair directly responsible for arab displacement, he was member of that group. He only have a problem with netenyahu as if after netenyahu is out , israel would stop occupation. If you think israel can only exists as a jewish state you are a zionist simple as that

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    He has literally been yelling about Israel's war crimes and the need to stop funding them on the floor of the US congress since I think the 1990s. You are being taken in by a fantasy-world designed by people who want you to stop supporting leftist voices in the US congress, which helps to defeat some real efforts to help save the Palestinian people before it is too late.

    I know you're not deliberately trying to hurt the cause of the Palestinian people, but the people at the root of creating this stuff you're being taken in by are (or at least they're indifferent to it if it can hurt people on the left), and you are unintentionally helping them. Your "simple as that" is just wrong. That's all I can really be able to relay to you about it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    Again he oppose bds, he reject palestinians right to self defense, he lived in a kibbutz where arabs was displaced by the group he joined. He oppose a one state solution with equal rights for israelis and palestinians.

    He is far from the worse but still a zionist

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    Again he has literally been yelling about Israel's war crimes and the need to stop funding them on the floor of the US congress since I think the 1990s. Again you are being taken in by a fantasy-world designed by people who want you to stop supporting leftist voices in the US congress, which helps to defeat some real efforts to help save the Palestinian people before it is too late.

    Again I know you're not deliberately trying to hurt the cause of the Palestinian people, but the people at the root of creating this stuff you're being taken in by are (or at least they're indifferent to it if it can hurt people on the left), and you are unintentionally helping them. Your "simple as that" is just wrong. Again that's all I can really be able to relay to you about it.

    See! I can do that too, just decide what the important parts are, and take the part of the person who is speaking and attempt to force the other person in the conversation to be the person listening, by just repeating what I said before.

    I would actually say that recognizing his current legislative actions as far as punishing Israel, removing funding, otherwise trying to do something to help the Palestinian people, instead of just performatively flopping around and clinging to particular less relevant facts as a way to complain about someone who should be an ally, would be better. But you do you. Want to do it again? You can just copy-paste your message and say "Again" in front of it, that's super productive engagement and will help.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (4 children)

    He was part of a group that displaced palestians how can you claim that he is against the occupation. Stopping arms alone won't stop occupation, bds is essential, stopping all money to israel is essential, no defense systems , not a single dime before the end of occupation, palestinians armed resistsnce is essential

    People with a grain of moral are siding with palestinians nothing will make them change their minds

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    You're a "part of a group" that displaced Palestinians: The human race.

    This whole conversation and logical structure is weird. I feel like I laid it out pretty clearly, but you're clearly not willing to accept.

    Okay.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    You're a "part of a group" that displaced Palestinians: The human race

    The dumbest thing i ever heard.

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