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If she doesn't disclose up front that she's wearing makeup, that's sexual assault (lemmy.today)
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[–] -5 points 2 months ago (7 children)

If one person on the internet being a feminist killjoy is enough for you to disavow feminism, you were never supportive of it to begin with.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Lol, I'm not disavowing feminism. Your comments won't change the mind of anyone who already had an egalitarian mindset - but in aggregate lots of comments like yours push away people on the fence, and entrench those who are already in a bad place.

    If a woman made an equivalent comment about the before and after shots of a guy getting in shape or something it would rightfully not draw any ire. Jumping down the throat of every guy who expresses their preferences about women is not going to win us any allies.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Who said anything about changing anyone's minds? She's merely pointing out that blunderworld's comment is still objectifying women. The up/downvote ratio says a lot about the Lemmy crowd that they should be ashamed of.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    If a woman had made an identical comment about a dude posting with/without makeup photos it wouldn't have drawn any ire.

    It wasn't objectification. He never insinuated that her looks were all that mattered, or that she wasn't a unique snowflake of a person - he simply mentioned his own preference about makeup.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    he simply mentioned his own preference about makeup.

    He mentioned his own preference about the woman pictured in the meme.

    If a woman had made an identical comment about a dude posting with/without makeup photos it wouldn’t have drawn any ire.

    It should draw ire.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    I don't have an inherent responsibility to be the nicest, most kind woman ever in order to get people to understand and support feminism and women's rights. I'm a person on the internet with strong opinions. That's it.

    If you want to believe that a single feminist killjoy on the internet is solely responsible for winning allies in the fight for women's rights, that's on you. I'm just pissed off at the audacity of people commenting on women as if they're objects to be dolled up (or not) to look nice for men.

    Believe it or not, women are allowed to be angry. And I don't care what y'all think.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    No, you don't have any responsibility per se, but you should know your comments come off more misandrist than feminist, and actively harm the cause. You are the embodiment of the shrieking feminazi strawman that incels joke about - and I'm not convinced you aren't a larping incel trying to push their conspiracy that feminism = man-hating.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    If you took one look at my post history, you'd know I'm not a larping incel. I don't push that feminism = man hating.

    I'm allowed my opinions same as any other anonymous person on the internet. Again, if my comments are enough to put someone off of feminism, they were never supportive of women's rights to begin with.

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