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There's not one place I can think of that I'd want to go to with a kid in tow (lemmy.world)
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[–] 8 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Never been to a museum? Learning stuff alongside a smart kid to whom most of it is new and wonderful really brings you back to great, absorbent state of mind.

I'm if sorry your parents set such a terrible example that very obvious questions like this baffle you.

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  • [–] [S] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    Hell to the fuck no. I'm going to the museum to enjoy myself and learn about cool stuff for myself. Bringing a kid is absolutely not going to result in a "great and absorbent state of mind", especially if I constantly have to worry about where said kid is and what they're doing -- I can just as well take an (adult) friend or partner to whom it is also new and wonderful if I want to share the experience with someone (and we can go someplace that's not fucking McDonald's after.)

    I'm sorry that your state of mind is so terribly moribund that simply being in a cool place of learning doesn't suffice for you to learn and absorb new things and that you have to rely on an external locus to delude yourself into believing you're getting to that point.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Don't disparage someone for enjoying something you don't. It's about choice and allowing people to have the life they want to have.

    Cut the sanctimonious attack on intelligence. I have a doctorate. I love going to museums alone. I have no desire to ever have kids. Ever.

    But nothing makes me smile like being able to witness the purity of joy and awe as someone learning something new. Child or adult doesn't matter, but children show it more cleanly and plainly IME. I like helping and I like educating. Does that make me moribound? Because I get a dopamine hit when I spread knowledge and understanding?

    Plainly speaking, you and I are total and complete biological failures. Life's only objective purpose is procreation - going back to self-replicating RNA molecules. The genes that perform best are the genes best at replicating themselves.

    So before you go spouting off some slop about how someone has a "moribund" mind, maybe remember that we're the ones that are defective. But that's okay, because we are all more than our contribution to genetic diversity.

    Act with more humility and kindness. Be confident in your own decisions, and maybe you'll act a little less like a shithead better-than-you-know-it-all.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    But nothing makes me smile like being able to witness the purity of joy and awe as someone learning something new. Child or adult doesn’t matter, but children show it more cleanly and plainly IME. I like helping and I like educating.

    That is wonderful and I'm genuinely delighted it brings you joy. The world would be a far better place if there were more people like you in it.

    Does that make me moribound? Because I get a dopamine hit when I spread knowledge and understanding?

    No. It makes you moribund if you need another person there with you to enter a "great and absorbent state of mind". For me the annoyance of having to watch over a kid far outweighs any potential joy I could derive out of educating them or watching them learn something new, which is why there is no place I would want to go or experience I would want to have that would be made better with the presence of a kid. It's that simple.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    This is so true, my daughter, fostered her since she was 11, is in a long term care facility trying to get over her trauma and become functional. She could be there for years. My wife and I went to the museum last Friday after I got off work, favorite place in the city and all things in it are free fridays and it's open late.

    While we were there there were many times I wish she was there. She has severe mental trauma and is quick to, "just give up". She's missed Holidays, birthdays, and potentially the death of both her grandmas (tecnically she is my wife's cousin).

    When you have a kid things change. You think more about what they would enjoy l vs what you would enjoy. It's not really this would be more fun with or without children just, ai want to give my child this experience. I miss my daughter.

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