▲ 125 ▼ Steam Frame owners will reportedly receive a free copy of Half-Life: Alyx (www.notebookcheck.net) submitted 2 months ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/pcmasterrace@lemmy.world 16 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] comador@lemmy.world -51 points 2 months ago (13 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 months ago (12 children) Nothing in the hardware they've released to date suggests a flop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children) To me it seems like the VR market might have a high-end foothold but otherwise seems like a "try again in 30 years" for the general market (so, slightly better than 3D TV's fate). Which isn't really Valve-specific. Though I'd also say is uncharitable way to frame it, the headline reminds me of the free PC codes for Portal 2 with Co-op crossplay early on in the Steam days. Though I'm sure AI-market-induced cost increase is a big part of it so apology actually isn't a bad way to put it, without 'failure' factoring in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 13 points 2 months ago (5 children) Tell us you haven’t tried vr porn without telling us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Sabata11792@ani.social 5 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Uhhh, a friend said its unconformable, you get the headset more sweaty than usual, the lenses fog up, then you need to put down a controller to free your wanking hand, and then run the risk of getting nut on $1000 hardware. Most the porn games with vr support also suck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago Honestly, vr porn is if anything less sweaty than most other vr games that have you moving your entire body around. With my Quest 2, a 3rd party fan exhaust attachment eliminated any humidity issues. Gesture control mode took care of no controllers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 months ago (2 children) Tell us without telling us Still using a 1050Ti, non-fiber internet, not buying stuff, and not even the right kind of sad for that. Mark Zuckerburg sniping me for sport is a more likely scenario. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) What is the right kind of sad for that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago* Normal person sad. Temporary sad. A-few-manageable-aspects sad. Sad, but: with privacy in a spare room spending money is easy and has good outcomes with some social/hobby life less self-awareness no issue with account hoops for using/unlocking the device you paid for Not that the sad bit is even the deciding factor here when we're talking about an expensive face brick that would probably give me motion sickness in games. permalink fedilink source parent [+] comador@lemmy.world -6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) Can you cite anything showing that Valve made any profits what so ever off of the Steam Frame? I'm supposed to prove they profited off a product that hasn't even been released yet? Because in May they announcdd it was shifting away from selling them What May announcement? Link please? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] comador@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago I have no idea what the takeaway is from that video, except that he didn't even get his facts right about the steam deck subsidies. Is it that hardware prices are going up? We don't need a source for that. What does ANY of this have to do with your claim that the steam frame (or alyx, because I can't figure out what your actual claim is) is a flop? permalink fedilink source parent [+] comador@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AlmightyDoorman@kbin.earth 10 points 2 months ago Alyx was a marketing campaign for the index, so you would have to include all the index they sold because of alyx permalink fedilink source parent [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago No, Alyx, sorry. Should have been more clear. Then why were you talking about material costs, steam deck comparisons, etc? How are you comparing a game to a hardware console? Alyx to date has earned roughly $40.7m YTD Alyx sold $40M in the 1st month alone and has broken the $100M mark by now, so you're incorrect. Alyx didn't profit, so why would they even bother continuing to try and release Steam Frames? Maybe because they're two different things that can stand apart from each other. Also all your arguments so far have been moot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago the index and even the cheapest of the competition was hella expensive so of course alyx wouldn't sell normal pc game numbers. and they would continue releasing steam frames because they are already made... even if it doesn't profit they will just cut their losses and make bank for the 900th time next steam sale permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-2 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 months ago (12 children) Nothing in the hardware they've released to date suggests a flop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children) To me it seems like the VR market might have a high-end foothold but otherwise seems like a "try again in 30 years" for the general market (so, slightly better than 3D TV's fate). Which isn't really Valve-specific. Though I'd also say is uncharitable way to frame it, the headline reminds me of the free PC codes for Portal 2 with Co-op crossplay early on in the Steam days. Though I'm sure AI-market-induced cost increase is a big part of it so apology actually isn't a bad way to put it, without 'failure' factoring in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 13 points 2 months ago (5 children) Tell us you haven’t tried vr porn without telling us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Sabata11792@ani.social 5 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Uhhh, a friend said its unconformable, you get the headset more sweaty than usual, the lenses fog up, then you need to put down a controller to free your wanking hand, and then run the risk of getting nut on $1000 hardware. Most the porn games with vr support also suck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago Honestly, vr porn is if anything less sweaty than most other vr games that have you moving your entire body around. With my Quest 2, a 3rd party fan exhaust attachment eliminated any humidity issues. Gesture control mode took care of no controllers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 months ago (2 children) Tell us without telling us Still using a 1050Ti, non-fiber internet, not buying stuff, and not even the right kind of sad for that. Mark Zuckerburg sniping me for sport is a more likely scenario. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) What is the right kind of sad for that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago* Normal person sad. Temporary sad. A-few-manageable-aspects sad. Sad, but: with privacy in a spare room spending money is easy and has good outcomes with some social/hobby life less self-awareness no issue with account hoops for using/unlocking the device you paid for Not that the sad bit is even the deciding factor here when we're talking about an expensive face brick that would probably give me motion sickness in games. permalink fedilink source parent [+] comador@lemmy.world -6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) Can you cite anything showing that Valve made any profits what so ever off of the Steam Frame? I'm supposed to prove they profited off a product that hasn't even been released yet? Because in May they announcdd it was shifting away from selling them What May announcement? Link please? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] comador@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago I have no idea what the takeaway is from that video, except that he didn't even get his facts right about the steam deck subsidies. Is it that hardware prices are going up? We don't need a source for that. What does ANY of this have to do with your claim that the steam frame (or alyx, because I can't figure out what your actual claim is) is a flop? permalink fedilink source parent [+] comador@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AlmightyDoorman@kbin.earth 10 points 2 months ago Alyx was a marketing campaign for the index, so you would have to include all the index they sold because of alyx permalink fedilink source parent [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago No, Alyx, sorry. Should have been more clear. Then why were you talking about material costs, steam deck comparisons, etc? How are you comparing a game to a hardware console? Alyx to date has earned roughly $40.7m YTD Alyx sold $40M in the 1st month alone and has broken the $100M mark by now, so you're incorrect. Alyx didn't profit, so why would they even bother continuing to try and release Steam Frames? Maybe because they're two different things that can stand apart from each other. Also all your arguments so far have been moot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago the index and even the cheapest of the competition was hella expensive so of course alyx wouldn't sell normal pc game numbers. and they would continue releasing steam frames because they are already made... even if it doesn't profit they will just cut their losses and make bank for the 900th time next steam sale permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-2 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children) To me it seems like the VR market might have a high-end foothold but otherwise seems like a "try again in 30 years" for the general market (so, slightly better than 3D TV's fate). Which isn't really Valve-specific. Though I'd also say is uncharitable way to frame it, the headline reminds me of the free PC codes for Portal 2 with Co-op crossplay early on in the Steam days. Though I'm sure AI-market-induced cost increase is a big part of it so apology actually isn't a bad way to put it, without 'failure' factoring in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 13 points 2 months ago (5 children) Tell us you haven’t tried vr porn without telling us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Sabata11792@ani.social 5 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Uhhh, a friend said its unconformable, you get the headset more sweaty than usual, the lenses fog up, then you need to put down a controller to free your wanking hand, and then run the risk of getting nut on $1000 hardware. Most the porn games with vr support also suck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago Honestly, vr porn is if anything less sweaty than most other vr games that have you moving your entire body around. With my Quest 2, a 3rd party fan exhaust attachment eliminated any humidity issues. Gesture control mode took care of no controllers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 months ago (2 children) Tell us without telling us Still using a 1050Ti, non-fiber internet, not buying stuff, and not even the right kind of sad for that. Mark Zuckerburg sniping me for sport is a more likely scenario. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) What is the right kind of sad for that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago* Normal person sad. Temporary sad. A-few-manageable-aspects sad. Sad, but: with privacy in a spare room spending money is easy and has good outcomes with some social/hobby life less self-awareness no issue with account hoops for using/unlocking the device you paid for Not that the sad bit is even the deciding factor here when we're talking about an expensive face brick that would probably give me motion sickness in games. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 13 points 2 months ago (5 children) Tell us you haven’t tried vr porn without telling us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Sabata11792@ani.social 5 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Uhhh, a friend said its unconformable, you get the headset more sweaty than usual, the lenses fog up, then you need to put down a controller to free your wanking hand, and then run the risk of getting nut on $1000 hardware. Most the porn games with vr support also suck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago Honestly, vr porn is if anything less sweaty than most other vr games that have you moving your entire body around. With my Quest 2, a 3rd party fan exhaust attachment eliminated any humidity issues. Gesture control mode took care of no controllers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 months ago (2 children) Tell us without telling us Still using a 1050Ti, non-fiber internet, not buying stuff, and not even the right kind of sad for that. Mark Zuckerburg sniping me for sport is a more likely scenario. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) What is the right kind of sad for that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago* Normal person sad. Temporary sad. A-few-manageable-aspects sad. Sad, but: with privacy in a spare room spending money is easy and has good outcomes with some social/hobby life less self-awareness no issue with account hoops for using/unlocking the device you paid for Not that the sad bit is even the deciding factor here when we're talking about an expensive face brick that would probably give me motion sickness in games. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 5 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Uhhh, a friend said its unconformable, you get the headset more sweaty than usual, the lenses fog up, then you need to put down a controller to free your wanking hand, and then run the risk of getting nut on $1000 hardware. Most the porn games with vr support also suck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago Honestly, vr porn is if anything less sweaty than most other vr games that have you moving your entire body around. With my Quest 2, a 3rd party fan exhaust attachment eliminated any humidity issues. Gesture control mode took care of no controllers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago Honestly, vr porn is if anything less sweaty than most other vr games that have you moving your entire body around. With my Quest 2, a 3rd party fan exhaust attachment eliminated any humidity issues. Gesture control mode took care of no controllers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 months ago (2 children) Tell us without telling us Still using a 1050Ti, non-fiber internet, not buying stuff, and not even the right kind of sad for that. Mark Zuckerburg sniping me for sport is a more likely scenario. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) What is the right kind of sad for that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago* Normal person sad. Temporary sad. A-few-manageable-aspects sad. Sad, but: with privacy in a spare room spending money is easy and has good outcomes with some social/hobby life less self-awareness no issue with account hoops for using/unlocking the device you paid for Not that the sad bit is even the deciding factor here when we're talking about an expensive face brick that would probably give me motion sickness in games. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) What is the right kind of sad for that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago* Normal person sad. Temporary sad. A-few-manageable-aspects sad. Sad, but: with privacy in a spare room spending money is easy and has good outcomes with some social/hobby life less self-awareness no issue with account hoops for using/unlocking the device you paid for Not that the sad bit is even the deciding factor here when we're talking about an expensive face brick that would probably give me motion sickness in games. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 months ago* Normal person sad. Temporary sad. A-few-manageable-aspects sad. Sad, but: with privacy in a spare room spending money is easy and has good outcomes with some social/hobby life less self-awareness no issue with account hoops for using/unlocking the device you paid for Not that the sad bit is even the deciding factor here when we're talking about an expensive face brick that would probably give me motion sickness in games. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] comador@lemmy.world -6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) Can you cite anything showing that Valve made any profits what so ever off of the Steam Frame? I'm supposed to prove they profited off a product that hasn't even been released yet? Because in May they announcdd it was shifting away from selling them What May announcement? Link please? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] comador@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago I have no idea what the takeaway is from that video, except that he didn't even get his facts right about the steam deck subsidies. Is it that hardware prices are going up? We don't need a source for that. What does ANY of this have to do with your claim that the steam frame (or alyx, because I can't figure out what your actual claim is) is a flop? permalink fedilink source parent [+] comador@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AlmightyDoorman@kbin.earth 10 points 2 months ago Alyx was a marketing campaign for the index, so you would have to include all the index they sold because of alyx permalink fedilink source parent [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago No, Alyx, sorry. Should have been more clear. Then why were you talking about material costs, steam deck comparisons, etc? How are you comparing a game to a hardware console? Alyx to date has earned roughly $40.7m YTD Alyx sold $40M in the 1st month alone and has broken the $100M mark by now, so you're incorrect. Alyx didn't profit, so why would they even bother continuing to try and release Steam Frames? Maybe because they're two different things that can stand apart from each other. Also all your arguments so far have been moot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago the index and even the cheapest of the competition was hella expensive so of course alyx wouldn't sell normal pc game numbers. and they would continue releasing steam frames because they are already made... even if it doesn't profit they will just cut their losses and make bank for the 900th time next steam sale permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-2 replies)
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children) Can you cite anything showing that Valve made any profits what so ever off of the Steam Frame? I'm supposed to prove they profited off a product that hasn't even been released yet? Because in May they announcdd it was shifting away from selling them What May announcement? Link please? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] comador@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago I have no idea what the takeaway is from that video, except that he didn't even get his facts right about the steam deck subsidies. Is it that hardware prices are going up? We don't need a source for that. What does ANY of this have to do with your claim that the steam frame (or alyx, because I can't figure out what your actual claim is) is a flop? permalink fedilink source parent [+] comador@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AlmightyDoorman@kbin.earth 10 points 2 months ago Alyx was a marketing campaign for the index, so you would have to include all the index they sold because of alyx permalink fedilink source parent [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago No, Alyx, sorry. Should have been more clear. Then why were you talking about material costs, steam deck comparisons, etc? How are you comparing a game to a hardware console? Alyx to date has earned roughly $40.7m YTD Alyx sold $40M in the 1st month alone and has broken the $100M mark by now, so you're incorrect. Alyx didn't profit, so why would they even bother continuing to try and release Steam Frames? Maybe because they're two different things that can stand apart from each other. Also all your arguments so far have been moot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago the index and even the cheapest of the competition was hella expensive so of course alyx wouldn't sell normal pc game numbers. and they would continue releasing steam frames because they are already made... even if it doesn't profit they will just cut their losses and make bank for the 900th time next steam sale permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-2 replies)
[+] comador@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago I have no idea what the takeaway is from that video, except that he didn't even get his facts right about the steam deck subsidies. Is it that hardware prices are going up? We don't need a source for that. What does ANY of this have to do with your claim that the steam frame (or alyx, because I can't figure out what your actual claim is) is a flop? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago I have no idea what the takeaway is from that video, except that he didn't even get his facts right about the steam deck subsidies. Is it that hardware prices are going up? We don't need a source for that. What does ANY of this have to do with your claim that the steam frame (or alyx, because I can't figure out what your actual claim is) is a flop? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] comador@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AlmightyDoorman@kbin.earth 10 points 2 months ago Alyx was a marketing campaign for the index, so you would have to include all the index they sold because of alyx permalink fedilink source parent [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago No, Alyx, sorry. Should have been more clear. Then why were you talking about material costs, steam deck comparisons, etc? How are you comparing a game to a hardware console? Alyx to date has earned roughly $40.7m YTD Alyx sold $40M in the 1st month alone and has broken the $100M mark by now, so you're incorrect. Alyx didn't profit, so why would they even bother continuing to try and release Steam Frames? Maybe because they're two different things that can stand apart from each other. Also all your arguments so far have been moot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago the index and even the cheapest of the competition was hella expensive so of course alyx wouldn't sell normal pc game numbers. and they would continue releasing steam frames because they are already made... even if it doesn't profit they will just cut their losses and make bank for the 900th time next steam sale permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlmightyDoorman@kbin.earth 10 points 2 months ago Alyx was a marketing campaign for the index, so you would have to include all the index they sold because of alyx permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago No, Alyx, sorry. Should have been more clear. Then why were you talking about material costs, steam deck comparisons, etc? How are you comparing a game to a hardware console? Alyx to date has earned roughly $40.7m YTD Alyx sold $40M in the 1st month alone and has broken the $100M mark by now, so you're incorrect. Alyx didn't profit, so why would they even bother continuing to try and release Steam Frames? Maybe because they're two different things that can stand apart from each other. Also all your arguments so far have been moot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago the index and even the cheapest of the competition was hella expensive so of course alyx wouldn't sell normal pc game numbers. and they would continue releasing steam frames because they are already made... even if it doesn't profit they will just cut their losses and make bank for the 900th time next steam sale permalink fedilink source parent