โฒ 661 โผ Debian developer Antoine Le Gonidec resigns after option allowing corporate LLM use without disclosure wins vote (lists.debian.org) submitted 2 months ago by ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net to c/linux@programming.dev 321 comments fedilink hide all child comments ๐ฏ 2
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (37 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 37 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (35 children) all of agriculture is only like 1/5 of our emissions, and we need to eat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 35 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (34 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 34 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (33 children) I haven't said anything about AI. but that Xu et al 2021 paper has some dubious methodology. the conclusions might be correct but the methodology can't prove it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 33 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (32 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 32 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (31 children) well I skimmed specifically for lca study combinations, and found them quickly. that invalidates all the data. if I read further, who knows what else i might find permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (30 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 30 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (9 children) if you had read this study, and understood the underlying science, the fact that I skimmed it would not interfere with your abilitiy to defend it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (7 children) you haven't explained why you think combining disparately methodized lca studies produces good data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) the LCA studies themselves are disparately mthodized. they can't be combined at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) xu didn't conduct any LCA studies at all. they combined multiple LCA studies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (19 children) LCA studies are custom built for each product comparison. by combining multiple LCA studies that have desperate methodology, they have muddied the results. none of this is reliable. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) maybe you should try understanding the underlying science permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) so you say, but i had to explain the issue with the LCA data to you, so i don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago your claim that livestock are a problem was supported by a dubious study. pointing out its inability to actually support that claim is highly relevant. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (12 children) yeah. using somebody else's LCA methodology doesn't make their methodology any good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) you have yet to articulate how it is bad. only if you're illiterate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) everything I've said is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) the study is not proof for its estimate. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago what i said is true. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] munsking@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago open fire, he's reaching! no i'm not, but i have been reducing my meat intake a lot, because of global warming and ethical issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (35 children) all of agriculture is only like 1/5 of our emissions, and we need to eat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 35 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (34 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 34 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (33 children) I haven't said anything about AI. but that Xu et al 2021 paper has some dubious methodology. the conclusions might be correct but the methodology can't prove it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 33 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (32 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 32 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (31 children) well I skimmed specifically for lca study combinations, and found them quickly. that invalidates all the data. if I read further, who knows what else i might find permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (30 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 30 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (9 children) if you had read this study, and understood the underlying science, the fact that I skimmed it would not interfere with your abilitiy to defend it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (7 children) you haven't explained why you think combining disparately methodized lca studies produces good data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) the LCA studies themselves are disparately mthodized. they can't be combined at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) xu didn't conduct any LCA studies at all. they combined multiple LCA studies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (19 children) LCA studies are custom built for each product comparison. by combining multiple LCA studies that have desperate methodology, they have muddied the results. none of this is reliable. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) maybe you should try understanding the underlying science permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) so you say, but i had to explain the issue with the LCA data to you, so i don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago your claim that livestock are a problem was supported by a dubious study. pointing out its inability to actually support that claim is highly relevant. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (12 children) yeah. using somebody else's LCA methodology doesn't make their methodology any good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) you have yet to articulate how it is bad. only if you're illiterate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) everything I've said is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) the study is not proof for its estimate. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago what i said is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (34 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 34 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (33 children) I haven't said anything about AI. but that Xu et al 2021 paper has some dubious methodology. the conclusions might be correct but the methodology can't prove it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 33 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (32 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 32 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (31 children) well I skimmed specifically for lca study combinations, and found them quickly. that invalidates all the data. if I read further, who knows what else i might find permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (30 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 30 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (9 children) if you had read this study, and understood the underlying science, the fact that I skimmed it would not interfere with your abilitiy to defend it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (7 children) you haven't explained why you think combining disparately methodized lca studies produces good data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) the LCA studies themselves are disparately mthodized. they can't be combined at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) xu didn't conduct any LCA studies at all. they combined multiple LCA studies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (19 children) LCA studies are custom built for each product comparison. by combining multiple LCA studies that have desperate methodology, they have muddied the results. none of this is reliable. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) maybe you should try understanding the underlying science permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) so you say, but i had to explain the issue with the LCA data to you, so i don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago your claim that livestock are a problem was supported by a dubious study. pointing out its inability to actually support that claim is highly relevant. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (12 children) yeah. using somebody else's LCA methodology doesn't make their methodology any good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) you have yet to articulate how it is bad. only if you're illiterate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) everything I've said is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) the study is not proof for its estimate. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago what i said is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (33 children) I haven't said anything about AI. but that Xu et al 2021 paper has some dubious methodology. the conclusions might be correct but the methodology can't prove it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 33 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (32 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 32 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (31 children) well I skimmed specifically for lca study combinations, and found them quickly. that invalidates all the data. if I read further, who knows what else i might find permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (30 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 30 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (9 children) if you had read this study, and understood the underlying science, the fact that I skimmed it would not interfere with your abilitiy to defend it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (7 children) you haven't explained why you think combining disparately methodized lca studies produces good data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) the LCA studies themselves are disparately mthodized. they can't be combined at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) xu didn't conduct any LCA studies at all. they combined multiple LCA studies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (19 children) LCA studies are custom built for each product comparison. by combining multiple LCA studies that have desperate methodology, they have muddied the results. none of this is reliable. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) maybe you should try understanding the underlying science permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) so you say, but i had to explain the issue with the LCA data to you, so i don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago your claim that livestock are a problem was supported by a dubious study. pointing out its inability to actually support that claim is highly relevant. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (12 children) yeah. using somebody else's LCA methodology doesn't make their methodology any good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) you have yet to articulate how it is bad. only if you're illiterate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) everything I've said is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) the study is not proof for its estimate. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago what i said is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (32 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 32 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (31 children) well I skimmed specifically for lca study combinations, and found them quickly. that invalidates all the data. if I read further, who knows what else i might find permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (30 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 30 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (9 children) if you had read this study, and understood the underlying science, the fact that I skimmed it would not interfere with your abilitiy to defend it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (7 children) you haven't explained why you think combining disparately methodized lca studies produces good data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) the LCA studies themselves are disparately mthodized. they can't be combined at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) xu didn't conduct any LCA studies at all. they combined multiple LCA studies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (19 children) LCA studies are custom built for each product comparison. by combining multiple LCA studies that have desperate methodology, they have muddied the results. none of this is reliable. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) maybe you should try understanding the underlying science permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) so you say, but i had to explain the issue with the LCA data to you, so i don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago your claim that livestock are a problem was supported by a dubious study. pointing out its inability to actually support that claim is highly relevant. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (12 children) yeah. using somebody else's LCA methodology doesn't make their methodology any good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) you have yet to articulate how it is bad. only if you're illiterate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) everything I've said is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) the study is not proof for its estimate. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago what i said is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (31 children) well I skimmed specifically for lca study combinations, and found them quickly. that invalidates all the data. if I read further, who knows what else i might find permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (30 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 30 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (9 children) if you had read this study, and understood the underlying science, the fact that I skimmed it would not interfere with your abilitiy to defend it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (7 children) you haven't explained why you think combining disparately methodized lca studies produces good data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) the LCA studies themselves are disparately mthodized. they can't be combined at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) xu didn't conduct any LCA studies at all. they combined multiple LCA studies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (19 children) LCA studies are custom built for each product comparison. by combining multiple LCA studies that have desperate methodology, they have muddied the results. none of this is reliable. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) maybe you should try understanding the underlying science permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) so you say, but i had to explain the issue with the LCA data to you, so i don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago your claim that livestock are a problem was supported by a dubious study. pointing out its inability to actually support that claim is highly relevant. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (12 children) yeah. using somebody else's LCA methodology doesn't make their methodology any good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) you have yet to articulate how it is bad. only if you're illiterate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) everything I've said is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) the study is not proof for its estimate. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago what i said is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (30 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 30 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (9 children) if you had read this study, and understood the underlying science, the fact that I skimmed it would not interfere with your abilitiy to defend it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (7 children) you haven't explained why you think combining disparately methodized lca studies produces good data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) the LCA studies themselves are disparately mthodized. they can't be combined at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) xu didn't conduct any LCA studies at all. they combined multiple LCA studies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (19 children) LCA studies are custom built for each product comparison. by combining multiple LCA studies that have desperate methodology, they have muddied the results. none of this is reliable. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) maybe you should try understanding the underlying science permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) so you say, but i had to explain the issue with the LCA data to you, so i don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago your claim that livestock are a problem was supported by a dubious study. pointing out its inability to actually support that claim is highly relevant. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (12 children) yeah. using somebody else's LCA methodology doesn't make their methodology any good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) you have yet to articulate how it is bad. only if you're illiterate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) everything I've said is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) the study is not proof for its estimate. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago what i said is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (9 children) if you had read this study, and understood the underlying science, the fact that I skimmed it would not interfere with your abilitiy to defend it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (7 children) you haven't explained why you think combining disparately methodized lca studies produces good data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) the LCA studies themselves are disparately mthodized. they can't be combined at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) xu didn't conduct any LCA studies at all. they combined multiple LCA studies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (7 children) you haven't explained why you think combining disparately methodized lca studies produces good data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) the LCA studies themselves are disparately mthodized. they can't be combined at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) xu didn't conduct any LCA studies at all. they combined multiple LCA studies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (7 children) you haven't explained why you think combining disparately methodized lca studies produces good data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) the LCA studies themselves are disparately mthodized. they can't be combined at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) xu didn't conduct any LCA studies at all. they combined multiple LCA studies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) the LCA studies themselves are disparately mthodized. they can't be combined at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) xu didn't conduct any LCA studies at all. they combined multiple LCA studies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) the LCA studies themselves are disparately mthodized. they can't be combined at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) xu didn't conduct any LCA studies at all. they combined multiple LCA studies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) xu didn't conduct any LCA studies at all. they combined multiple LCA studies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children) xu didn't conduct any LCA studies at all. they combined multiple LCA studies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) this quote shows no evidence of them conducting a single LCA. the fact that they used poore-nemecek's method outs them. they just combined a bunch of disparately methodized studies. it's junk science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (19 children) LCA studies are custom built for each product comparison. by combining multiple LCA studies that have desperate methodology, they have muddied the results. none of this is reliable. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) maybe you should try understanding the underlying science permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) so you say, but i had to explain the issue with the LCA data to you, so i don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago your claim that livestock are a problem was supported by a dubious study. pointing out its inability to actually support that claim is highly relevant. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (12 children) yeah. using somebody else's LCA methodology doesn't make their methodology any good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) you have yet to articulate how it is bad. only if you're illiterate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) everything I've said is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) the study is not proof for its estimate. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago what i said is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) maybe you should try understanding the underlying science permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) so you say, but i had to explain the issue with the LCA data to you, so i don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago your claim that livestock are a problem was supported by a dubious study. pointing out its inability to actually support that claim is highly relevant. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (12 children) yeah. using somebody else's LCA methodology doesn't make their methodology any good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) you have yet to articulate how it is bad. only if you're illiterate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) everything I've said is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) the study is not proof for its estimate. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago what i said is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) maybe you should try understanding the underlying science permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) so you say, but i had to explain the issue with the LCA data to you, so i don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago your claim that livestock are a problem was supported by a dubious study. pointing out its inability to actually support that claim is highly relevant. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) so you say, but i had to explain the issue with the LCA data to you, so i don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago your claim that livestock are a problem was supported by a dubious study. pointing out its inability to actually support that claim is highly relevant. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) so you say, but i had to explain the issue with the LCA data to you, so i don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago your claim that livestock are a problem was supported by a dubious study. pointing out its inability to actually support that claim is highly relevant. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago your claim that livestock are a problem was supported by a dubious study. pointing out its inability to actually support that claim is highly relevant. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago your claim that livestock are a problem was supported by a dubious study. pointing out its inability to actually support that claim is highly relevant. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (12 children) yeah. using somebody else's LCA methodology doesn't make their methodology any good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) you have yet to articulate how it is bad. only if you're illiterate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) everything I've said is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) the study is not proof for its estimate. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago what i said is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) you have yet to articulate how it is bad. only if you're illiterate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) everything I've said is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (6 children) you have yet to articulate how it is bad. only if you're illiterate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) everything I've said is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) everything I've said is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (4 children) everything I've said is true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) except all the evidence I have provided permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago saying they're incorrect doesn't make them so. i've also pointed out why your links aren't actually proof for your claims. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) the study is not proof for its estimate. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago what i said is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children) the study is not proof for its estimate. it's not good science. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago what i said is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rjwilliamson@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago what i said is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago what i said is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] munsking@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago open fire, he's reaching! no i'm not, but i have been reducing my meat intake a lot, because of global warming and ethical issues. permalink fedilink source parent