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Biological sex is neither binary nor a spectrum – a biologist explains how it’s multidimensional (theconversation.com)
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[–] 3 points 2 months ago (8 children)

If youre going to debate CITE research of your own. Dont just come in with random opinions with little research backing them.

The point of scientific debate is that YOUR science is larger and /or more rigorous than your opponent's thus proving thst youre probably more correct on the matter than they are.

If someone or I say 'im the reincarnation of Mao-Tse-Tung!' , does anybody hare have to believe me unless I can prove it? How would I be able to prove that without medical records that prove that it is the undeniable truth?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    But you do not know what my original response was because it was removed, is that what your proposal is? To remove any counter views without any discourse at all. Is that your idea of debate within a community or how research is reviewed.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I actuallt saw your first message before it was deleted and I also saw that you didnt cite a single thing to prove your point so thats enough to convince me that you were talking garbage.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Let me be clear what your muddled posts are stating, in a discussion forum like Lemmy your opinion is that it is good practice to remove reasoned alternative views which run counter to general opinion and any comments without citations are garbage. I think that is an admittance that your own ideas cannot stand scrutiny.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    We can still read your comment in the mod log (I'm not mod, regular users like me can see it). It's not rigurous, it's not sharing any sources, it's just speculation, and while personally I don't mind speculation in general, this is clearly a very sensitive issue for lots of folks. At any rate, if you wanna be able to have a good faith debate it's good to share sources, especially with complicated, sensitive topics like this. It also helps if in addition to sources you make sure to show empathy towards people who might be dealing with crap due to the broader assumptions around the topic (in this case mainly intersex people, to a lesser degree also trans people) just so everyone will relax and understand that you do wanna talk in good faith. I believe you do, but we're all anonymous strangers here and we're so used to reading reactionary trolls, so a lot of people understandably won't give you the benefit of the doubt.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    As I recall all that I said was in the special case of humans the physicality of gender was most usually far more simply delineated and discreet than the intellectual expression of it which was on a more continuous spectrum that can slide for an individual through time. It is a given that while physical complexity nevertheless does occur the far more common situation is cognitive complexity. It seems to me that is a reasonable assertion to put forward and is on topic and in no way aggressive or threatening and I see no cause in it to warrant its removal by a moderator. At the very least it initiated discussion which is the purpose of these boards.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    As I recall all that I said was in the special case of humans the physicality of gender was most usually far more simply delineated and discreet than the intellectual expression of it which was on a more continuous spectrum that can slide for an individual through time. It is a given that while physical complexity nevertheless does occur the far more common situation is cognitive complexity.

    ....OK.....And now that you have said this....prove it please....with science!

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    No I said if you come in with a countersrgumrnt or series of counterarguments to a researcher's ideas you need to come in with citations or resesrch that is more rigourous or has more subjects or both than the researchers'. If you have ANYTHING that you can cite to twerk in her?! Please do it. NEVER bbe afraid to prove others wrong when you have the citations to do it.

    I cant make ANY effective counteraguments against this lady even though I do disagree eith her in some things because

    1. I have no degree , award, or tutelage in the fields of gender studies or biology , or whatever else field is covered in the artcile.

    2. I have no research I can cite to shut her up.

    ...So she has won an eternal victory over me and pretty much. everyone else here until I csn prove otherwise. Or until anyone else proves her wrong

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