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[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

While that is true yes, their whole brand is built on being secure.

If they release to Fairphone it won't be long before the news is flooded with "Police easily bypass supposedly secure GraphoneOS"

And that's not a look they'd want.

I like their stance on All or Nothing.

Motorola is shipping with GraphineOS soon.

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[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

While that is true yes, their whole brand is built on being secure.

but if calyx would take their features they would be screaming loudly how unfair that is

If they release to Fairphone it won't be long before the news is flooded with "Police easily bypass supposedly secure GraphoneOS"

that part I can understand. maybe release it under a different name, but they are probably not interested in that.

their code is open source, but they were so hostile with every other part of the free android community that nobody wants to deal with the shitstorm that would happen if they took patches from graphene.

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[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

This is news to me, how were they hostile?

I would think they'd be happy if others also implement security features

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[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

initially the founder had issues with an old project member, who founded copperhead os, a competing rom. allegedly he took all the code from graphene for use in copperhead, without attribution, and it even involved money some way. these two were suing each other for a long time, there was brigading in chat rooms and forums and whatnot. then somehow the rage extended to other projects too, like f-droid and calyx os, which they also accused of brigading and more, so that anyone mentioning calyx os in graphene rooms gets banned from there on sight.

I don't have enough information to be certain about which projects were actually hostile to graphene and which not, but people have been calling the graphene founder paranoid for thinking everyone wants to destroy their project. the founder was writing a lot on twitter and other places, mostly (but not only) with tye official graohene os account. he stepped down from being the project leader a year or two ago.

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[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

all android devices have been using file based disk encryption since several Android versions now.

All Android devices are supposed to support it, but not all do. (or at least, not all do effectively without compromising the cryptographic root of trust by not implementing proper hardware security chips)

I'll grant it to you on the scopes, PIN changes, etc, but realistically I just don't think anyone can justify GrapheneOS being something that should be supported on Fairphone given how absolutely desolate the phone looks with regard to any attempt at all to hardware security.