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[–] 0 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Yes, they lie at work, they lie on their taxes, they cheat on their wives, they lie on their car insurance they do everything they can do lie cheat and steal without getting in trouble, their moral compass is they shouldn't do things if it gets them in trouble, and when they do get caught the way to minimize the trouble is to deny and deflect.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (13 children)

    Ah so we've reached the point where MAGA is simultaneously too dumb to navigate their way out of a paper bag and somehow the most accomplished fraudsters in the U.S. .

    Congrats, you learned from the fascists well.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    You don't need to be smart to lie and cheat.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (11 children)

    You need to be smart to get away with it, but for some reason you believe every single blue collar worker that voted for Trump is simultaneously a fucking idiot and also a criminal mastermind.

    The fascist other - it's the only way to describe it. The enemy is both strong and weak.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    No, you don't need to be smart to get away with it because trump is defunding all enforcement that isn't ice.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (9 children)

    So you understand nothing about how anything works, apparently.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    No, you're trying to paint me into a corner that doesn't exist. Dumb people lie and steal and get away with it all the time. Intelligence has nothing to do with it. And yes, plenty of smart people do too. You're conflating two things that have nothing to do with each other. You could be claiming that im framing maga supporters as tall and short at the same time and it would make just as much sense.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (7 children)

    You're conflating two things that have nothing to do with each other. You could be claiming that im framing maga supporters as tall and short at the same time

    The enemy is both weak and strong, if you are unaware why this is fascist ideology I heavily suggest reading into it.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I never said they are both weak and strong, everybody learns that shit in high school when they read 1984. It just does not apply to this conversation.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (5 children)

    No, those 77 million people are not all like this cop.

    You can call them stupid, and you'd be right - but there are plenty of well meaning idiots in MAGA. That doesn't change the fact that they should all be worked like dogs until they pay everyone they've fucked over - but they aren't all like this guy. Many of them are just incredibly stupid.

    This is the comment you replied to. If you don't understand how you fell into fascist ideology by trying to say (and I'm paraphrasing) 'no you're wrong' to this, using the arguments you've made 100% falls into 'the enemy is both weak and strong' category.

    And no, idiots do not get away with fraud - rich people do. There is a distinct difference between the two, and if you don't understand that then you shouldn't be weighing in on the topic.

    Like everyone else that responded to me about this.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (4 children)

    idk you think im saying theyre all dumb, im not, that's a strawman you invented in your comment you just cited. they are in fact bad people, sorry if youre girlfriend is maga or something. adn there's plenty of stupid people who are good people and that's why they didn't vote for trump. you don't have to be smart to not supprt a child rapist. and yes plenty of rich people are idiots, again you're conflating things that have nothing to do with each other.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    no there really aren't man, there's people who didn't know better and voted trump the first time, but the magas are people who are bad people and see that trump is a bad person, and that's precisely why they voted for him.

    This is your response. You are trying to suggest that the people who are victims of propaganda are simply all bad people instead of what they are - fucking ignorant and incapable of escaping it.

    You can hate them for that. I hate them for that. It does not change the reality that what you're saying is empirically incorrect.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (2 children)

    The victims were the ones who voted for him only the first time. The second time there's no excuse.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    They're victims of propaganda still. You have to understand that at a level of 77 million people that the issue is systemic. Again, I hate MAGA - but to pretend that every single MAGA voter is a liar, cheater, bully, etc. is just wrong.

    Unforgivable stupidity, yes. I think every MAGAt owes reparations to every non-MAGAt. That includes the non-MAGAts the world over.

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  • Yes we do have a systemic problem with lack of morals and sense of civic duty. Those "good but stupid people" as you call them, for some money, they'll murder you and your family they dont give a fuck. Hell ice has already hired tens of thousands to do exactly that.

    They all dream about making tons of money and if the us goes to hell they'll just retire rich in a different country. They are not good people. Good people, even if extremely stupid, do not support hate and abuse and rape and genocide.

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