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[–] artyom@piefed.social [S] -3 points 2 months ago (7 children)

A different distro is not different software.

...what!? LOL

Gamescope on Bazzite is the same as Gamescope on Cachy. Same for Plasma/KDE.

Gamescope on either is also not the same as Plasma.

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 months ago* (6 children)

Yes.

A distro or distribution is just a collection of software packages, and usually a package manager.

The actual software itself is the same. The list can be different, but where the items overlap, they are the same. How up to date they are can vary, but Plasma 6 on Bazzite is the exact same as Plasma 6 on Cachy.

Systemd is the same systemd across arch, ubuntu, mint, endeavour, fedora, and any others that use it.

Is this not obvius?

Changing the distro does not tell you much. Especially as you're running the exact same program in the exact same DE, you should absolutely expect the same result.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social [S] -3 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Is this not obvius?

Not only is it not obvious, it's not accurate.

A distro or distribution is just a collection of software packages

Software packages that are different . That's what makes one distro different from another. Is that not obvious?

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

Software packages that are different.

No? The same software is the same software, regardless what distro you install it on.

Gamescope running on top of KDE/Plasma in one distro will not be different from Gamescope running on top of KDE/Plasma in another distro.

Distros are just presets. The vast majority have far more similarities than differences.

What makes one distro different from another, is that it might come with gnome instead of KDE, pacman instead of apt, initd instead of systemd, systemd-boot instead of grub.

Or any other litany of alternative packages that do the same things.

But if you use the same software, then there is little difference between one distro and the next. The main difference is going to be that you installed the same code from a different distributor.

That's literally where the name "distro" comes from.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social [S] -3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Software packages that are different

No?

What makes one distro different from another, is that it might come with gnome instead of KDE, pacman instead of apt, initd instead of systemd, systemd-boot instead of grub.

So...different software? Those are all software.

That’s literally where the name of “distro” comes from.

The name comes from different distributions of Linux that come packaged with different software .

I don't know what semantics game you're trying to play here or how it's supposed to help me fix my machine but I'm out.

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

No.

We use the word distro because they're not really a fully separate OS. Just a different preset with either a lot or almost nothing swapped out as compared to the next.

You are so hung up being correct here you're missing what I'm actually trying to teach you.

You need to be comparing different versions, not distros. Because the same version of the same software is going to have the same problem, no matter what distro you use.

You don't even know how to access system logs, and you expect to understand enough about this stuff to successfully correct me on why trying a different distro isn't that helpful for troubleshooting?

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[–] artyom@piefed.social [S] -3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

I'm not missing anything. What you're missing is that there are 2 different graphical compositors (AKA software). One works, and one doesn't. On the same hardware. So it's not a hardware issue.

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

AND I AM TELLING YOU TO DOWNGRADE THEM SO YOU CAN SEE IF AN EARLIER VERSION WORKS CORRECTLY, INSTEAD OF SWAPPING OUT THE ENTIRE DISTRO

ONLY TO TRY THE EXACT SAME COMPOSITOR AS IF THAT WOULD FIX IT

So instead of that, try earlier versions! Different distros from the same date are obviously likely to be running similar versions of Gamescope or whatever else might be the cause.