warm comments on Firefox stunts on Edge as Microsoft gears up to neuter adblockers: 'uBlock Origin isn't going anywhere'

[–] warm@kbin.earth 11 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Day later: Firefox adds more AI features enabled by default

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -4 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Firefox doing well at something? Guess it's time for Firefox fans to imagine them eventually doing something else that they don't like so they can gripe about that instead.

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[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I mean... they are kind of pushing AI right now, probably to soak some of that VC money floating around, but there is also a toggle in the settings thats basically "dont ever talk to me about AI again".

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago

Facedeer is just an AI evangelist troll. I guess one of his goals is to try convincing people of some "silent majority" somewhere.

There's no point in arguing with him on this

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[+] yoasif@mastodon.social 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

By giving you an off-switch, Mozilla’s leadership shifts the ethical burden of AI onto the user - turning their design choices into your responsibility.

Oh no, giving the user the choice of which features they want to use! How vile!

Use one of the forks that does this by default if you really can't stand having the choice yourself. Or is choosing a fork also "making it your responsibility" and therefore also something that's bad?

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[–] yoasif@mastodon.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

@FaceDeer @nemeski@mander.xyz @warm @Zorque I am.

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago

FWIW I think you're doing the right thing in pressuring Mozilla to have better defaults and shed their bloat. Especially because some people who have abandoned Firefox have also felt compelled to leave their forks because they unfortunately resemble hobbyist projects:

I only briefly considered the Firefox forks. On LibreWolf specifically, I don't think I trust that they will be around. It seems they have one primary maintainer, they don't accept donations, and the main person could leave tomorrow. That's not just my read, that's their stated position.

I really like what LibreWolf is and does, but it's understandable people would reach this conclusion.

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

They may also be pushing AI features because there are people who actually do want to use them. "Nobody wants this" is a refrain most commonly spoken inside social bubbles.

As you say, nobody has to use these features if they don't want to. If they feel icky even knowing that there's a configuration option there then there are plenty of Firefox forks out there that don't even have that. It's so tiresome seeing these complaints being endlessly inserted into unrelated discussions like this.