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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I doubt that US extortion will be reversed in any future DNC election victory. Only antagonism, and resulting colapse of US, which has yet to be manifested, will result in reversal.

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[+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You literally just said that it was because of Republicans that the EU soured on the US and now you're telling me that in the EU you don't look at which party is in charge but at the US as a whole. Do you not see how these statements are contradictory?

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

Ok? The significance of the clip I posted was not that it was Biden saying it but what he said he would do (and very likely did). Why did that prompt you say, "FYI: in the EU we don’t play the “it was Biden vs it was Trump” game. We stop at “it was the US?”"

The reason I posted that clip was to establish the reason why I believe the US blew up the pipeline. Yes, it happens to be Biden in that clip, but you're the one who started talking about distinguishing between Trump and Biden and then about not distinguishing between Trump and Biden. I'm just talking about the US.

The only thing I can think of is that you're trying to preemptively shift the NordStream thing away from Biden and onto the US in general as a way of deflecting blame from Biden. But again, I just brought it up to establish US policy on NordStream, not specifically to bash Biden. If it's not that, then I just straight up don't understand you at all.

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why would I want to deflect blame from Biden? I’m telling you that I’m a European and I don’t care who’s in charge in the US or which president did what.

Why did you feel the need to say that you don't care about internal US politics when I didn't say shit about internal US politics?

All I did was post a clip of the US president promising that he'll stop NordStream if Russia invaded Ukraine, despite not having the legal authority to do so. Then, of course, Russia invaded Ukraine, and the NordStream pipeline mysteriously got stopped (could be anyone, really!)

because that sabotage was very convenient for every party

It certainly wasn't convenient for Russia or Germany.

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

You mentioned that I may want to deflect the responsibility from Biden. -> I don’t have such interests.

Again, why did you feel the need to say that you don’t care about internal US politics when I didn’t say shit about internal US politics?

Whoever did it

Yeah, could be Russia's biggest geopolitical rival that directly benefited both politically and economically by forcing Europe to buy their gas instead and which said that it would do that exact thing under those exact conditions and easily have the means to do it, or it could've been anyone, really.

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