▲ 539 ▼ A cybersecurity researcher covered a Toyota in an AI-generated pattern to confuse Flock cameras (www.techspot.com) submitted 2 months ago by Nobody_Special@piefed.social to c/technology@lemmy.world 107 comments fedilink hide all child comments ⭐ 2
[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (14 children) Should have done random license plates permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] crank0271@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (7 children) From this bit in the article: The pattern does not stop a camera from recording. Instead, it is designed to prevent the software connected to the camera from recognizing what it sees. A person or car wearing the pattern would still appear in the footage, but the detection system may not flag it as a person or vehicle. I wonder if these systems won't "notice" and record the license plate on its own if they don't think there's a vehicle present. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 15 points 2 months ago (4 children) Detected smudge with license plate. SWAT team has been dispatched. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] otacon239@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children) That’s the trick, though. With these patterns, the camera doesn’t even recognize that there’s a car there at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Would it read a license plate if you set it in the bushes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago There's an idea. Start putting fake license plates everywhere to poison ALPRs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago "Let's hear it for the vague blur" -p k dick, A Scanner Darkly permalink fedilink source parent [–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (1 child) More likely is that these companies will just update their models to identify these vehicles once again. Furthermore, patterns like this make the car really stand out from the crowd which is a terrible way to disguise yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago Correct. The arms race of evolution never stops. Eternal vigilance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children) Benn Jordan did a video on that, he was able to add patterns of stuff to make plates unreadable by ALPR systems. He didn't share the pattern for people to use as it may be illegal, but you can see it in the video permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 child) This video? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago Yep, about 23.5 minutes into that one permalink fedilink source parent [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* (2 children) it’s illegal to reproduce/mimic license plates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 8 points 2 months ago Interesting. I have this Tshirt from a few years ago. The vendor's website still has anti-AI patterns, but removed the license plates prints. https://adversarialapparel.com/products/deception-mosaic-anti-surveillance-t-shirt-advanced-deception-clothing permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago Where and under what circumstances? Do you have a link for more information? In my US state, I see reproduced license plates (i.e., not the original state-issued metal ones) all the time. Like stickers, e-paper (I think?), etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (7 children) From this bit in the article: The pattern does not stop a camera from recording. Instead, it is designed to prevent the software connected to the camera from recognizing what it sees. A person or car wearing the pattern would still appear in the footage, but the detection system may not flag it as a person or vehicle. I wonder if these systems won't "notice" and record the license plate on its own if they don't think there's a vehicle present. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 15 points 2 months ago (4 children) Detected smudge with license plate. SWAT team has been dispatched. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] otacon239@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children) That’s the trick, though. With these patterns, the camera doesn’t even recognize that there’s a car there at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Would it read a license plate if you set it in the bushes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago There's an idea. Start putting fake license plates everywhere to poison ALPRs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago "Let's hear it for the vague blur" -p k dick, A Scanner Darkly permalink fedilink source parent [–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (1 child) More likely is that these companies will just update their models to identify these vehicles once again. Furthermore, patterns like this make the car really stand out from the crowd which is a terrible way to disguise yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago Correct. The arms race of evolution never stops. Eternal vigilance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@startrek.website 15 points 2 months ago (4 children) Detected smudge with license plate. SWAT team has been dispatched. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] otacon239@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children) That’s the trick, though. With these patterns, the camera doesn’t even recognize that there’s a car there at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Would it read a license plate if you set it in the bushes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago There's an idea. Start putting fake license plates everywhere to poison ALPRs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago "Let's hear it for the vague blur" -p k dick, A Scanner Darkly permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children) That’s the trick, though. With these patterns, the camera doesn’t even recognize that there’s a car there at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Would it read a license plate if you set it in the bushes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago There's an idea. Start putting fake license plates everywhere to poison ALPRs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@startrek.website 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Would it read a license plate if you set it in the bushes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago There's an idea. Start putting fake license plates everywhere to poison ALPRs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago There's an idea. Start putting fake license plates everywhere to poison ALPRs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago "Let's hear it for the vague blur" -p k dick, A Scanner Darkly permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (1 child) More likely is that these companies will just update their models to identify these vehicles once again. Furthermore, patterns like this make the car really stand out from the crowd which is a terrible way to disguise yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago Correct. The arms race of evolution never stops. Eternal vigilance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago Correct. The arms race of evolution never stops. Eternal vigilance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children) Benn Jordan did a video on that, he was able to add patterns of stuff to make plates unreadable by ALPR systems. He didn't share the pattern for people to use as it may be illegal, but you can see it in the video permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 child) This video? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago Yep, about 23.5 minutes into that one permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 child) This video? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago Yep, about 23.5 minutes into that one permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago Yep, about 23.5 minutes into that one permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* (2 children) it’s illegal to reproduce/mimic license plates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 8 points 2 months ago Interesting. I have this Tshirt from a few years ago. The vendor's website still has anti-AI patterns, but removed the license plates prints. https://adversarialapparel.com/products/deception-mosaic-anti-surveillance-t-shirt-advanced-deception-clothing permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago Where and under what circumstances? Do you have a link for more information? In my US state, I see reproduced license plates (i.e., not the original state-issued metal ones) all the time. Like stickers, e-paper (I think?), etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 8 points 2 months ago Interesting. I have this Tshirt from a few years ago. The vendor's website still has anti-AI patterns, but removed the license plates prints. https://adversarialapparel.com/products/deception-mosaic-anti-surveillance-t-shirt-advanced-deception-clothing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago Where and under what circumstances? Do you have a link for more information? In my US state, I see reproduced license plates (i.e., not the original state-issued metal ones) all the time. Like stickers, e-paper (I think?), etc. permalink fedilink source parent