▲ 88 ▼ Just created my own zero trust network! (lemmy.world) submitted 1 year ago by HurlingDurling@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world 52 comments fedilink hide all child comments No awards are needed, just wanted to share my excitement that while my Jellyfin server still keeps loosing my entire library every 24 hours at least now it has a domain and ssl cert! That is all. Happy Friday everyone
[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (12 children) How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children) Ya got three options. Option A is to create your own certificate that is self-signed. You will then have to load the certificate into any client you want to use. Easier than people realize, just a couple terminal commands. Give this a go if you want to learn how they work. Option B is to generate a certificate with Let's Encrypt via an application like certbot. I suggest you use a DNS challenge to create a wildcard certificate. Option C is to buy a certificate from your DNS provider aka something like cloudflare. IMO the best is Option B. Takes a bit to figure it out but its free and rotates automatically which I like. I like helping and fixing stuff, if you'd like to know anything just ask :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (8 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (6 children) Oooo ya know I actually don't know about these. I've done both A and B for my homelab and C for work. Any good resources / insight into mTLS? I appreciate the response btw! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuWay9XJyw You really should not expose stuff to the internet willy nilly. If you must you need to have extensive monitoring and security controls plus you should understand the application at a deep level. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Ahhh interesting video! I appreciate the post. I see the mTLS is more about authenticating who the client is outside the application. Don't worry, Im not just exposing thing willy nilly 🤣 For client-side authentication I use Authentik combined with 2FA, Duo, and fail2ban. Authentik provides identity management through LDAP to jellyfin and any sign in request goes to MFA and you get a Duo notification to approve. You can do other MFA, i just havent set it up. Ive got a lot of family who use my server. Asking them to install a TSL cert on every machine would be impossible. My method also monitors all sign in requests. Setting up Authentik was a hugggeee game changer for me. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) Well ya know this is a forum and I was trying to engage in a friendly conversation to learn about something you brought up. But yeah I know how to fucking Google lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CybranM@feddit.nu 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Then why reply at all? Zero effort is to avoid commenting, maximum effort is trying to answer, "Google?" is wasted effort permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Who pissed in your cornflakes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I get the impression you're the type of person who encounters assholes everywhere you go. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Nor is it authentication. permalink fedilink source parent [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago That is for server side certs not client side. I'm talking about Mutual TLS. Setting up https is not going to stop bots. All it does is prevent man in the middle attacks. You want to limit who and what can access Jellyfin so that you don't end up being a victim of an automated exploit. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] archy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Kleopatra permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago That isn't mutualTLS It just is a frontend for gpg. You need OpenSSL for mutual certs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tux7350@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children) Ya got three options. Option A is to create your own certificate that is self-signed. You will then have to load the certificate into any client you want to use. Easier than people realize, just a couple terminal commands. Give this a go if you want to learn how they work. Option B is to generate a certificate with Let's Encrypt via an application like certbot. I suggest you use a DNS challenge to create a wildcard certificate. Option C is to buy a certificate from your DNS provider aka something like cloudflare. IMO the best is Option B. Takes a bit to figure it out but its free and rotates automatically which I like. I like helping and fixing stuff, if you'd like to know anything just ask :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (8 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (6 children) Oooo ya know I actually don't know about these. I've done both A and B for my homelab and C for work. Any good resources / insight into mTLS? I appreciate the response btw! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuWay9XJyw You really should not expose stuff to the internet willy nilly. If you must you need to have extensive monitoring and security controls plus you should understand the application at a deep level. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Ahhh interesting video! I appreciate the post. I see the mTLS is more about authenticating who the client is outside the application. Don't worry, Im not just exposing thing willy nilly 🤣 For client-side authentication I use Authentik combined with 2FA, Duo, and fail2ban. Authentik provides identity management through LDAP to jellyfin and any sign in request goes to MFA and you get a Duo notification to approve. You can do other MFA, i just havent set it up. Ive got a lot of family who use my server. Asking them to install a TSL cert on every machine would be impossible. My method also monitors all sign in requests. Setting up Authentik was a hugggeee game changer for me. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) Well ya know this is a forum and I was trying to engage in a friendly conversation to learn about something you brought up. But yeah I know how to fucking Google lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CybranM@feddit.nu 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Then why reply at all? Zero effort is to avoid commenting, maximum effort is trying to answer, "Google?" is wasted effort permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Who pissed in your cornflakes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I get the impression you're the type of person who encounters assholes everywhere you go. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Nor is it authentication. permalink fedilink source parent [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago That is for server side certs not client side. I'm talking about Mutual TLS. Setting up https is not going to stop bots. All it does is prevent man in the middle attacks. You want to limit who and what can access Jellyfin so that you don't end up being a victim of an automated exploit. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (8 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (6 children) Oooo ya know I actually don't know about these. I've done both A and B for my homelab and C for work. Any good resources / insight into mTLS? I appreciate the response btw! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuWay9XJyw You really should not expose stuff to the internet willy nilly. If you must you need to have extensive monitoring and security controls plus you should understand the application at a deep level. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Ahhh interesting video! I appreciate the post. I see the mTLS is more about authenticating who the client is outside the application. Don't worry, Im not just exposing thing willy nilly 🤣 For client-side authentication I use Authentik combined with 2FA, Duo, and fail2ban. Authentik provides identity management through LDAP to jellyfin and any sign in request goes to MFA and you get a Duo notification to approve. You can do other MFA, i just havent set it up. Ive got a lot of family who use my server. Asking them to install a TSL cert on every machine would be impossible. My method also monitors all sign in requests. Setting up Authentik was a hugggeee game changer for me. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) Well ya know this is a forum and I was trying to engage in a friendly conversation to learn about something you brought up. But yeah I know how to fucking Google lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CybranM@feddit.nu 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Then why reply at all? Zero effort is to avoid commenting, maximum effort is trying to answer, "Google?" is wasted effort permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Who pissed in your cornflakes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I get the impression you're the type of person who encounters assholes everywhere you go. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Nor is it authentication. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tux7350@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (6 children) Oooo ya know I actually don't know about these. I've done both A and B for my homelab and C for work. Any good resources / insight into mTLS? I appreciate the response btw! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuWay9XJyw You really should not expose stuff to the internet willy nilly. If you must you need to have extensive monitoring and security controls plus you should understand the application at a deep level. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Ahhh interesting video! I appreciate the post. I see the mTLS is more about authenticating who the client is outside the application. Don't worry, Im not just exposing thing willy nilly 🤣 For client-side authentication I use Authentik combined with 2FA, Duo, and fail2ban. Authentik provides identity management through LDAP to jellyfin and any sign in request goes to MFA and you get a Duo notification to approve. You can do other MFA, i just havent set it up. Ive got a lot of family who use my server. Asking them to install a TSL cert on every machine would be impossible. My method also monitors all sign in requests. Setting up Authentik was a hugggeee game changer for me. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) Well ya know this is a forum and I was trying to engage in a friendly conversation to learn about something you brought up. But yeah I know how to fucking Google lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CybranM@feddit.nu 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Then why reply at all? Zero effort is to avoid commenting, maximum effort is trying to answer, "Google?" is wasted effort permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Who pissed in your cornflakes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I get the impression you're the type of person who encounters assholes everywhere you go. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuWay9XJyw You really should not expose stuff to the internet willy nilly. If you must you need to have extensive monitoring and security controls plus you should understand the application at a deep level. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Ahhh interesting video! I appreciate the post. I see the mTLS is more about authenticating who the client is outside the application. Don't worry, Im not just exposing thing willy nilly 🤣 For client-side authentication I use Authentik combined with 2FA, Duo, and fail2ban. Authentik provides identity management through LDAP to jellyfin and any sign in request goes to MFA and you get a Duo notification to approve. You can do other MFA, i just havent set it up. Ive got a lot of family who use my server. Asking them to install a TSL cert on every machine would be impossible. My method also monitors all sign in requests. Setting up Authentik was a hugggeee game changer for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tux7350@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Ahhh interesting video! I appreciate the post. I see the mTLS is more about authenticating who the client is outside the application. Don't worry, Im not just exposing thing willy nilly 🤣 For client-side authentication I use Authentik combined with 2FA, Duo, and fail2ban. Authentik provides identity management through LDAP to jellyfin and any sign in request goes to MFA and you get a Duo notification to approve. You can do other MFA, i just havent set it up. Ive got a lot of family who use my server. Asking them to install a TSL cert on every machine would be impossible. My method also monitors all sign in requests. Setting up Authentik was a hugggeee game changer for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) Well ya know this is a forum and I was trying to engage in a friendly conversation to learn about something you brought up. But yeah I know how to fucking Google lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CybranM@feddit.nu 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Then why reply at all? Zero effort is to avoid commenting, maximum effort is trying to answer, "Google?" is wasted effort permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Who pissed in your cornflakes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I get the impression you're the type of person who encounters assholes everywhere you go. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] tux7350@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) Well ya know this is a forum and I was trying to engage in a friendly conversation to learn about something you brought up. But yeah I know how to fucking Google lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CybranM@feddit.nu 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Then why reply at all? Zero effort is to avoid commenting, maximum effort is trying to answer, "Google?" is wasted effort permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Who pissed in your cornflakes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I get the impression you're the type of person who encounters assholes everywhere you go. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CybranM@feddit.nu 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Then why reply at all? Zero effort is to avoid commenting, maximum effort is trying to answer, "Google?" is wasted effort permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Who pissed in your cornflakes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I get the impression you're the type of person who encounters assholes everywhere you go. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Then why reply at all? Zero effort is to avoid commenting, maximum effort is trying to answer, "Google?" is wasted effort permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Who pissed in your cornflakes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I get the impression you're the type of person who encounters assholes everywhere you go. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Who pissed in your cornflakes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I get the impression you're the type of person who encounters assholes everywhere you go. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Who pissed in your cornflakes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I get the impression you're the type of person who encounters assholes everywhere you go. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I get the impression you're the type of person who encounters assholes everywhere you go. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I get the impression you're the type of person who encounters assholes everywhere you go. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Nor is it authentication. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago That is for server side certs not client side. I'm talking about Mutual TLS. Setting up https is not going to stop bots. All it does is prevent man in the middle attacks. You want to limit who and what can access Jellyfin so that you don't end up being a victim of an automated exploit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] archy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Kleopatra permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago That isn't mutualTLS It just is a frontend for gpg. You need OpenSSL for mutual certs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago That isn't mutualTLS It just is a frontend for gpg. You need OpenSSL for mutual certs. permalink fedilink source parent