▲ 167 ▼ Network (lemmy.zip) submitted 3 months ago by shark_byte@lemmy.zip to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev 32 comments fedilink hide all child comments All hail redundancy
[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 71 points 3 months ago (12 children) This isn’t redundant, it’s failure points with extra steps. permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 23 points 3 months ago (5 children) Yes. I see two obvious ones of Switch 3 and Switch 5. Did an AI make this? If so, it wasn't a good one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children) care to explain more? of course the redundant configurations haven't been enabled, so you can see STP doing it's thing. if everything is done right, then where's the failure point? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pleb_maximus@piefed.zip 9 points 3 months ago (3 children) I see the problem with Switches 2 and 5. Because they don't help anything if Switch 3 or respectively 4 go down. They aren't connected to the Routers on their own. So with the current setup you could get rid of the whole row of Switches and not lose any redundancy. Also, you could think of aggregating your cross connections in Port Channels. Might as well use your ports if you are paying for them anyways. Oh, and are the WiFi and LAN supposed to be the same net? Because if they are, you don't need to go over the routers to connect between the two of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] -9 points 3 months ago (2 children) yeah exactly it's a satire topology take it as humor permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Why did you ask for clarification then permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] 0 points 3 months ago well I don't know everything is obvious. this is a humor group right. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] 4 points 3 months ago (5 children) well how so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] recursivethinking@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children) Switches 3 and 4 are single points of failure. The other 2 & 5 are completely redundant unnecessary. You can just use 2 switches total, cross-connect each to upstream, and do vLANs/subnets to isolate the traffic downstream. Edit: if you really wanna do physical separation and you want redundancy you'd want to connect 2&5 to both routers. Honestly tho textbook network with that many nodes for so few devices is already overkill for home, so doing that many switches is just... Idk man, doing full stack troubleshooting for an hour while everyone's just trying to watch a movie is gonna do more hatm than good. Whoever implements this should probably spin up a ticketing system for the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] -3 points 3 months ago (2 children) yeah true it's a satire topology btw imagine running high end switches and routers just for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 3 months ago (1 child) Yeah, imagine... https://media.tenor.com/tEEjB0RnxyAAAAAe/puppet-awkward.png permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 3 points 3 months ago adopt me! i can test your backups permalink fedilink source parent [–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago @recursivethinking@lemmy.world did a better job of explaining it than I could have. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 23 points 3 months ago (5 children) Yes. I see two obvious ones of Switch 3 and Switch 5. Did an AI make this? If so, it wasn't a good one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children) care to explain more? of course the redundant configurations haven't been enabled, so you can see STP doing it's thing. if everything is done right, then where's the failure point? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pleb_maximus@piefed.zip 9 points 3 months ago (3 children) I see the problem with Switches 2 and 5. Because they don't help anything if Switch 3 or respectively 4 go down. They aren't connected to the Routers on their own. So with the current setup you could get rid of the whole row of Switches and not lose any redundancy. Also, you could think of aggregating your cross connections in Port Channels. Might as well use your ports if you are paying for them anyways. Oh, and are the WiFi and LAN supposed to be the same net? Because if they are, you don't need to go over the routers to connect between the two of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] -9 points 3 months ago (2 children) yeah exactly it's a satire topology take it as humor permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Why did you ask for clarification then permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] 0 points 3 months ago well I don't know everything is obvious. this is a humor group right. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children) care to explain more? of course the redundant configurations haven't been enabled, so you can see STP doing it's thing. if everything is done right, then where's the failure point? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pleb_maximus@piefed.zip 9 points 3 months ago (3 children) I see the problem with Switches 2 and 5. Because they don't help anything if Switch 3 or respectively 4 go down. They aren't connected to the Routers on their own. So with the current setup you could get rid of the whole row of Switches and not lose any redundancy. Also, you could think of aggregating your cross connections in Port Channels. Might as well use your ports if you are paying for them anyways. Oh, and are the WiFi and LAN supposed to be the same net? Because if they are, you don't need to go over the routers to connect between the two of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] -9 points 3 months ago (2 children) yeah exactly it's a satire topology take it as humor permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Why did you ask for clarification then permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] 0 points 3 months ago well I don't know everything is obvious. this is a humor group right. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pleb_maximus@piefed.zip 9 points 3 months ago (3 children) I see the problem with Switches 2 and 5. Because they don't help anything if Switch 3 or respectively 4 go down. They aren't connected to the Routers on their own. So with the current setup you could get rid of the whole row of Switches and not lose any redundancy. Also, you could think of aggregating your cross connections in Port Channels. Might as well use your ports if you are paying for them anyways. Oh, and are the WiFi and LAN supposed to be the same net? Because if they are, you don't need to go over the routers to connect between the two of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] -9 points 3 months ago (2 children) yeah exactly it's a satire topology take it as humor permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Why did you ask for clarification then permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] 0 points 3 months ago well I don't know everything is obvious. this is a humor group right. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] -9 points 3 months ago (2 children) yeah exactly it's a satire topology take it as humor permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Why did you ask for clarification then permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] 0 points 3 months ago well I don't know everything is obvious. this is a humor group right. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Why did you ask for clarification then permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] 0 points 3 months ago well I don't know everything is obvious. this is a humor group right. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] 0 points 3 months ago well I don't know everything is obvious. this is a humor group right. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] 4 points 3 months ago (5 children) well how so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] recursivethinking@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children) Switches 3 and 4 are single points of failure. The other 2 & 5 are completely redundant unnecessary. You can just use 2 switches total, cross-connect each to upstream, and do vLANs/subnets to isolate the traffic downstream. Edit: if you really wanna do physical separation and you want redundancy you'd want to connect 2&5 to both routers. Honestly tho textbook network with that many nodes for so few devices is already overkill for home, so doing that many switches is just... Idk man, doing full stack troubleshooting for an hour while everyone's just trying to watch a movie is gonna do more hatm than good. Whoever implements this should probably spin up a ticketing system for the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] -3 points 3 months ago (2 children) yeah true it's a satire topology btw imagine running high end switches and routers just for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 3 months ago (1 child) Yeah, imagine... https://media.tenor.com/tEEjB0RnxyAAAAAe/puppet-awkward.png permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 3 points 3 months ago adopt me! i can test your backups permalink fedilink source parent [–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago @recursivethinking@lemmy.world did a better job of explaining it than I could have. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] recursivethinking@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children) Switches 3 and 4 are single points of failure. The other 2 & 5 are completely redundant unnecessary. You can just use 2 switches total, cross-connect each to upstream, and do vLANs/subnets to isolate the traffic downstream. Edit: if you really wanna do physical separation and you want redundancy you'd want to connect 2&5 to both routers. Honestly tho textbook network with that many nodes for so few devices is already overkill for home, so doing that many switches is just... Idk man, doing full stack troubleshooting for an hour while everyone's just trying to watch a movie is gonna do more hatm than good. Whoever implements this should probably spin up a ticketing system for the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] -3 points 3 months ago (2 children) yeah true it's a satire topology btw imagine running high end switches and routers just for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 3 months ago (1 child) Yeah, imagine... https://media.tenor.com/tEEjB0RnxyAAAAAe/puppet-awkward.png permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 3 points 3 months ago adopt me! i can test your backups permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shark_byte@lemmy.zip [S] -3 points 3 months ago (2 children) yeah true it's a satire topology btw imagine running high end switches and routers just for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 3 months ago (1 child) Yeah, imagine... https://media.tenor.com/tEEjB0RnxyAAAAAe/puppet-awkward.png permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 3 points 3 months ago adopt me! i can test your backups permalink fedilink source parent
[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 3 months ago (1 child) Yeah, imagine... https://media.tenor.com/tEEjB0RnxyAAAAAe/puppet-awkward.png permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 3 points 3 months ago adopt me! i can test your backups permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 3 points 3 months ago adopt me! i can test your backups permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago @recursivethinking@lemmy.world did a better job of explaining it than I could have. permalink fedilink source parent