GNOME Boxes lead developer Felipe Borges has been overhauling the application with a major rewrite and today announced the new beta release. GNOME Boxes has migrated to using the GTK4 toolkit and libadwaita. The new GNOME Boxes code can also handle installing Microsoft Windows 11 now without needing any manual workarounds for Secure Boot or TPM requirements.

The new GNOME Boxes code also introduces a VSOCK device for accessing VM contexts and other improvements. With the revamped GNOME Boxes, it's also shifting to a Flatpak-first and only model for distributing of new GNOME Boxes releases.

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[–] 4 points 3 months ago (10 children)

This rewriting almost killed the project and I still fear for Bottles.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    what's going on with Bottles?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    Bottles Next, the successor of the current Bottles is in development. Of course it's a Rust rewrite. 🤦‍♂️ The project has slowed down since then considerably.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    they also got distracted by a project rolling their own distro instead of focusing on Bottles. same fate has befallen lutris

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    I may aswell ask here: suppose I have a bunch (like, a lot of them) of Wine / Proton prefixes managed by Botttles and want to move on with the least of hassle, keeping these prefixes and my preferences intact. Is this possible with some other solution? I'm not a strict gamer, my prefixes have more productivity applications than games per si. So I didn't look into Steam, Lutris, etc.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I avoid Bottles out of principle because one of the devs doesn't understand what open source means and harasses distros to remove older versions.

    https://github.com/bottlesdevs/Bottles/issues/2345

    Also referring to "inferior package manager" in that post.

    Same dev harassed Mint for shipping Gnome Calendar in their repositories.

    https://gitlab.com/linuxmint/pins/mint/gnome-calendar/-/work_items/1

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    The issue seems to be mostly about the support overhead from really outdated versions still shipped to the public. This seems to be a legitimate concern and why I avoid the distros in question myself.

    The issue about "inferior" package managers is not that wrong as well. Version mismatches between dependencies is a big issue in development and why stuff like docker, nix and even atomic desktops are so successful.

    I'm a big fan of the classical package managers, especially for my base system but the overhead on developers and packagers is definitely not negligible especially if they use pre release versions of dependencies like bottles did.

    Lastly I completely get that you don't like the tone, the mint/home calendar issue was, while I get the concern, a hard read

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