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[–] 204 points 1 year ago (74 children)

Casual reminder that Gabe Newell owns 6 yachts worth an estimated US$1 billion and that he is not your friend.

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  • [–] 86 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Gabe Newell is better than many others, but this is true, the best man on Earth will become an absolute pissbag given power for continuous enough period of time to realize that.

    And the best man on Earth is probably some volunteer medic in some African warzone, not a computer programmer and a tech businessman.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 99 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Man that has poured shitloads of money into turning linux into a more mainstream desktop platform is rich

    Wow.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    A huge chunk of that Linux development was paid for by exploiting child gambling.

    Just because one does a few good things with their money, doesn't justify how they got it.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Valve was making bank before lootcrates, and lootcrates have been available to kids since trading card games.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This dude is 100% correct and I have no idea why people are downvoting him. Sales make people more likely to buy a product due to being limited. Limited time sales work better than lowering prices in the long term.

    It's why indie games do stuff like release their new games with time-limited 10% off discounts.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago

    There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

    Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

    We can nitpick specific examples for everything you want, and we will be correct, but that detracts from the point that Gabe has helped to build things that took decades of slowly getting anywhere.

    I wish we didn't need it, but we do.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I just dont understand miney obsessed people. Why the hell do you need multiple yachts? Why even work at this point when you could just .. not? You would still afford everything you ever want without ever checking your bank account. I just dont get it.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I would 100% still work if I were rich. The only thing that would change is when and what I work on.

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    Yup, if I was worth an obscene amount, I'd still work, but the nature of my work would change. It sounds like he found something he enjoys that happens to make a ton of money.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's the dream really. Whether that thing you love makes money or not, that's what you can do once you have enough.

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  • Exactly. I have a few ideas for that, but I'm not nearly to the point of funding them:

    • start/join charity to help people get out of debt
    • create a game dev studio to make my dream games
    • finish building my P2P Reddit alternative

    I'm working on the last two in my spare time, but I'm not willing to quit my day job and rely on the those to pay the bills. If I got a windfall, I'd consider it, but of not, I hope to be there in my lifetime 50s. We'll see.

    I'm sure many (most?) have something similar.

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    That's for every individual reading this to decide. It will either mean something or nothing to you.

    Personally, I don't think billionaires should exist. Even the ones that I think have done cool things. And I definitely don't think anyone needs 6 yachts in a world that is burning.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I do, that's why I said something.

    And nobody has "earned" that much wealth. Absolutely no one.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Gabe shouldnt be able to have the money he has, but his yacht ownership isn't the issue many are making when pointing it out. One is his home, full time, any home he was going own was realistically going to suck for the environment. Last I read the others are all like research vessels, emergency medical facilities for disaster relief, and humanitarian aid, and shit. Not like a zuck's smaller yacht to act as a helipad for his larger yacht thing.

    maybe some day we will have a system that prevents people from having that much money, until then any place with an active enough economy has some assholes owning yachts.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Personally, I don’t think billionaires should exist. Even the ones that I think have done cool things.

    Yeah, it's in the intersection of two "doubt" points making one "almost sure" point.

    First, people getting power get spoiled fast, it's not possible to resist, it's as if I could have any girl I like and she'd like me and I knew that, just no chance to avoid a sensory burnout after a few months of, eh, feeling that. The possibility that a person can resist that is very small, people like Aristotle Onassis, maybe.

    Second, if one person is worth, say, 12000 times more than another person, it's important to ask whether they really are, or they can be replaced with like 50 of equals of that another person with proper organization and discipline. The possibility that they really are is almost negligibly small, there are a few people alive for whom one can suggest that and maybe more, but most are like those people we know and love.

    I can imagine Gabe Newel being worth 100, maybe 1000 times me for the humanity, purely financially, but something of bigger orders of magnitude seems preposterous. Not even touching upon money affecting our relative legal power balance, where even factor 2 difference is just morally not acceptable.

    Not that I'm of any bad opinion of Gabe, Steam is one today's company that both doesn't abuse its customers too much and does a lot of work on the positive side.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    taking 30% from devs by doing nothing.

    LMAO tell me you are not a dev without telling me.

    Steam does a shitton for devs, the 30% is literally only for sales through their storefront, I can get any amount of keys and resell them wherever I want and give valve nothing, and they'll still host all my shit, check ownership, handle copy sharing in family libraries, handle patching and beta tests, all for a one time fee that is even refunded if you ever get past a certain amount of copies sold.

    You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    How's the bile, you seething commie clown?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I love communism

    And I'm sure you live on one of the many successful communist countries in the world today.

    Oh, wait.

    and circus performers

    Well at least you have high self esteem.

    they both bring joy to the masses

    The masses*

    * the portion of them that is not in a gulag, is not disappeared, doesn't have its rights curtailed due to social credit decline for disagreeing with the regime, wasn't purposefully starved to death during the holodomor, and so forth.

    And don't get me started on the evils of the circus performers who propagandise for them from the comfort of their liberal democracies.

    There is a reason communism is treated with equal acrimony to nazism in every former soviet satellite state, m8.

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    They could, but why would they when 30% is fair still? You are not entitled to setting other people's asking price, and they are entitled to setting the cost of their own labour.

    If anyone is greedy here it's you, demanding to have a say in how much is a fair rate for someone else's time and skill.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    taking 30% from devs by doing nothing.

    If this was true steam would have failed from the start. Instead, the service actually does offer a ton of benefits to both users and developers/publishers including distribution of sales, updates, additional features like forums, friends, and other things that have varying levels of positive or negative benefits to different people. That isn't even mentioning Proton or the steam deck, just what it between the makers of the games and the people who play them.

    Lootboxes are bullshit, sure. He should have spread out the benefits more to the employees as well. But the 30% cut for 'nothing' is incorrect.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Steam has been coasting on the fact that everyone shoots themselves in the foot, sure, but you should look into the unparalleled level of "free" (30% cut) marketing support Steam gives to developers. On no other platform could developers end up with the visibility they achieve on Steam with nothing more than very strategic timing and good social media presence. It's still insanely hard, but the fact that it's even possible to compete with zero marketing budget against AAA companies speaks volumes.

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