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Illinois Governor Signs School Cellphone Ban to Avoid Student Distractions (gov-pritzker-newsroom.prezly.com)
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[–] 2 points 3 months ago (6 children)

This IS how you deal with phones responsibly. When kids get out in the real world, they'll have to work and interact with the world around them without the constant hits of dopamine from their phone. Asking them to not be scrolling their phones while in class is the LEAST we can do.

If I was a teacher, there would be a basket next to the classroom door, and everyone would have to drop their phone in it when entering the classroom. Anyone caught with a phone in class would get a 5 page essay on the addictive properties of phones.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

    Except that's not how phones actually work in the "real" world. Adults have phones on them all the time (with very few exceptions). There aren't "phone police" preemptively taking their phones from them during meetings. They need to learn self control, and forcing them not to have the phone available doesn't teach that. I'm all for making them put their phone in a basket for a time period if they show they can't control themselves, that teaches them, but it shouldn't be the default.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    And in the “real” world you can get fired for not doing your job or being on your phone too much. There are legit consequences that can applied without much pushback. In schools, you can’t just kick a kid out forever for fucking with their phone after multiple warnings and detentions. You can, however, confiscate the phone for the remainder of the class, or have them keep it in their locker to check during breaks, which is exactly what this bill is doing. To be honest, that’s what teachers were doing anyway in most schools so this is really just a formality.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Ok... That exactly what I said in the comment you replied to. You are just angrily agreeing with me now.

    The only part that differs is that this bill preemptively takes the phone from them, even if they have a good history of using it responsibly. That's the part I disagree with. Take the phone only when there is a history of abuse from a particular student, not all the time, every time.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Except that I’m arguing that it is the default. Most kids can’t handle not constantly being on it, sneaking, taking videos in class, etc. Their attention spans are very small. They are in a school, not a job, and I disagree that they should just have it on them in the first place. They earn that when they can go to college where they have 4 years to experiment, but before that their focus should be in the classroom.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    They need to learn that class is a place to focus on learning, and phones interrupt that learning. You think it's an opportunity to learn self discipline, but what about the kids that aren't as capable of that? You just let them miss their education because you allowed them to play on their phone in class, hoping they'd learn phone discipline instead of the curriculum?

    Science and English classes are for Science and English, not phone discipline. They can learn phone discipline at home, and having significant breaks from constant dopamine hits throughout the day will help them do that.

    When I was a student in the pre-cell phone era, you couldn't walk into class with a boom box or small tv, and expect to enjoy those in class, even with headphones. Phones are the modern equivalent.

    Phones do not belong in the classroom.

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