▲ 568 ▼ Capitalist propaganda is effective (lemmy.ml) submitted 3 months ago by yogthos@lemmy.ml to c/socialism@lemmy.ml 109 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] G4Z@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago (3 children) community consensus once was that iraq had wmd’s It really wasn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (2 children) here's wikipedia's consensus still framing the government's wmd claims as 'assertions' while uncritically repeating them years after the iraqi invasion: https://wayback.qa-archive-it.org/all/20080911173302/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction The foia showed the government had doubts before the invasion -- wikipedia didn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] G4Z@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 child) Okay..? Just because wiki says that doesn't mean that was the community consensus, millions of people protested that war. In my country it is still the largest protest in history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago* We're not discussing the general public's consensus. We're discussing Wikipedia's consensus driven decision process and why it makes Wikipedia an unreliable source. Wikipedia said that there was consensus and anyone w eyes and ears knew that was bullshit -- as you've pointed out -- but people still want to use Wikipedia as a source anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (2 children) here's wikipedia's consensus still framing the government's wmd claims as 'assertions' while uncritically repeating them years after the iraqi invasion: https://wayback.qa-archive-it.org/all/20080911173302/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction The foia showed the government had doubts before the invasion -- wikipedia didn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] G4Z@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 child) Okay..? Just because wiki says that doesn't mean that was the community consensus, millions of people protested that war. In my country it is still the largest protest in history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago* We're not discussing the general public's consensus. We're discussing Wikipedia's consensus driven decision process and why it makes Wikipedia an unreliable source. Wikipedia said that there was consensus and anyone w eyes and ears knew that was bullshit -- as you've pointed out -- but people still want to use Wikipedia as a source anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] G4Z@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 child) Okay..? Just because wiki says that doesn't mean that was the community consensus, millions of people protested that war. In my country it is still the largest protest in history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago* We're not discussing the general public's consensus. We're discussing Wikipedia's consensus driven decision process and why it makes Wikipedia an unreliable source. Wikipedia said that there was consensus and anyone w eyes and ears knew that was bullshit -- as you've pointed out -- but people still want to use Wikipedia as a source anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago* We're not discussing the general public's consensus. We're discussing Wikipedia's consensus driven decision process and why it makes Wikipedia an unreliable source. Wikipedia said that there was consensus and anyone w eyes and ears knew that was bullshit -- as you've pointed out -- but people still want to use Wikipedia as a source anyways. permalink fedilink source parent