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I might have missed something profound. (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 3 months ago by to c/memes@lemmy.world
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What'd I miss?

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[–] 155 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (65 children)

Just some Lemmy web front end that rolls with some instances for which the admin injected a block list for accounts that are unapologetically pro-trans and/or leftist. People, myself included, are on that block list. There is much more to it but that's the jist.

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  • [–] [S] 90 points 3 months ago* (33 children)

    So just the usual stupidity then. Cool. Wish people could just act normal. Diversity is a natural thing and to deny it is insanity.

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  • [–] 72 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    You're probably blocked now for saying that.

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  • [–] [S] 41 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Good?

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  • [–] 38 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, it is a sign that you are a good and decent person IMO.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    Isn't the whole of blahaj blocked anyway? The dev who implemented this is an asshole of the first order. Implementing a broad block list without the knowledge of the users is one thing, but the statement they gave afterwards, my god, what a knob.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    but portrayimg it as motivated by bigotry when it's not is pretty messed up too.

    Explain to me the non-bigoted reason for blocking the entire lemmy.blahaj.zone instance (which is predominantly trans), as well as blocking various terms related to queer identities. (Hint: there isn't one, fuck this guy.)

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Aw, you poor widdle soul. Stating they are advocating "problematic political views" is just telling on yourself, isn't it?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You didn't see the Tesseract admin's deleted rant then huh.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    They are accounts that advocate violence or other problematic political views.

    My username appears on the list and I don’t believe my comment history aligns with this statement at all. I believe my username is just unique enough to not have another instance of it. Selection of some usernames do not appear to support their (admiralpatrick) claims of violence advocation nor extreme political views.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    You could have said something as innocuous and logical as trans folks have the right to defend themselves or a thousand other violence adjacent notions. Objection to violence outright is just navel gazy utopic thinking. It sounds nice but it isn't practical reality. There is always a line.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    Guessing you checked the list for your name again right before posting this lol

    Why would you believe that reasoning? This guy is your friend or something?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Believing without questioning some shit you read on the Internet is the last thing I would call rational

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Now you're just making up shit that I supposedly believe. The far more likely explanation for them doing this is "whatever reason they have at the time for not liking someone".

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  • [–] [S] 30 points 3 months ago* (5 children)

    Someone's existence is not to be debated. It's not an opinion to agree or disagree with. The frontend's creator needs to learn that lesson.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    His reason for banning people is transphobia, hate, bigotry, etc. but since I live next to Russia, I'm used to reading "titles" in the opposite direction (says X, means Y), but I have genuinely no clue what's going on here

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    well, now I'm insulted that I wasn't on that list.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    I know, me too! At least there is comfort in knowing he can’t shut us all up.

    PRO-CHOICE 🩷 PRO-TRANS 🩷 ANTI-MAGA ❌ ANTI-ISRAEL ❌

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago*

    I’m sad I didn’t make the cut, but last I checked, I was the only active user on my instance lol. Like a one-man sloop in an ocean of clippers.

    Sure, I could shut it down and just register elsewhere, but I keep it around as my service to an open web free from fascist and corporate control.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    The block list is cringe lol. It reads like something a snowflake libertarian or centrist would make to isolate themselves from reality so they can live out their lives in delusion. 🙉 🙈 🙊

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Exactly, it is delusional to assume you need some smoking gun to assume intent. There are others here using that line of logic to assume no bad intent. The logic is quite clear in the screed that the tesseract admiral put out there to defend themselves.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    It’s also not in the spirit of what Lemmy is. Admins of instances are the ones that should have a say in their rules and tools. If you want to add a “Toxic Mode,” make it something the admin is not automatically opted into. Also, it’s pretty cowardly to not state the why behind any of this when it was created, and no community discussion. All the Tesseract dev has done is alienate themselves from the entire Lemmy community, except for the weird isolationist ones that just magically happen to have views that often align with conservatives and fascists.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago*

    This is what I feel is the biggest issue, the deception.

    The fact that there’s a blacklist is almost inconsequential to the fact that it’s not explicitly stated, that it’s default applied AND the error message when you run into it implies it’s not from a blacklist.

    Lies by omission are still lies no matter how much Patrick is crying about it always being there. If you’re not upfront about it, for something as incendiary as a shadowban list, especially for a community like lemmy, you’re a piece of shit and deserve to be ostracized.

    If he had made it all transparent, we’d still make fun of him but at least he would be honest about it and give people the choice to decide for themselves.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    How do you know that you are on the list?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Here it is, I don't see you on it.

    https://file.garden/amIRhTctI0qld2r5/policy.json

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Damn. I guess I'm a bigot.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Try using more of the banned words, like ACAB and Perchance.

    Or try asking directly. The dev posted a tantrum explanation here: https://lemmy.today/post/57096701

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Thank you for the link. And jfc what a nuclear meltdown. He sure sounds much more 'normal' than regular Lemmy users, which according to him nowadays consist of people not allowed anywhere else online. I'm sure he has the right temperament for attracting 'normies' and 'save the fediverse from itself' as he puts it, lol

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    No problem.

    It's too bad because it's perfectly fine for instances, and I suppose apps, to cater their experience. Beehaw was open about their intentions from the beginning and as far as I know, no one gives them shit.

    The lack of clear guidelines on who or what gets banned and the near obfuscation of what was being banned made this so much more than it had to be.

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