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It gives real good dads a bad name (discuss.online)
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[–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, and that system would still favor the emotionally abusive parent over the physically abusive one. Corporal punishment is the one with a name put to it, it'll be focused on more.

"The child's best interest" section might name the child in that decision loop, but their opinion will still be weighted as though they're a child and can't make an informed decision about their care.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    No, that's not how the law works. There's a lot of work material before the law is decided that's used as guidance as well as predecents in courts and other material. All aspects are of equal value no matter how they're named.

    Yeah, it gives the children an opportunity to voice their own opinion and it will be given weight in any decisions made by social services. Their opinion is not just brushed off because they're a child, it has to be taken into account.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I understand that you better understand how the law works. I'm saying that putting more red tape or better definitions on a thing isn't going to change that direct, immediate "this can kill you right now" actions are taken more seriously in all cases than "this will fuck up your world view and might become a physical threat to you at some point" ones.

    The guy who preferred his physically abusive dad over his emotionally abusive mom is going to end up going with the mom in most cases.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    I hear what you are saying and I understand, but my point is the law makes no differences between abuses (in Sweden at least) and our social services exercises their power only as stipulated by the law. Therefore both kinds of abuses are equally treated.

    But considering different cases:

    • a child being subjected to corporal punishment at home will be handled in the same fashion as one being subjected to other abusive treatment

    However

    • a child coming in to the hospital beaten to pulp will probably immediately be separated from their parents, a child seeking mental care would probably not

    Which is what you're thinking of maybe?

    Also with this said, child services in Sweden from time to time fucks up and return children to their abusive parents, resulting in their mistreatment and deaths. There has been at least three cases over the last few years which has shocked the population

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