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Gotta have my bacon (lemmy.world)
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[–] -3 points 3 months ago* (10 children)

Yes, slaves are super convenient. No one ever said that slaves aren't nice to have, dude. YOUR experience is not the fucking point.

There is no way to create a creature for the express purpose of exploitation that is okay. There is no way to create a creature with the intention of forcing it into a state of total dependence that is not actually evil.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    comparing slaves to animals is what slavers do

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Yes! Good on you for noticing the speciesism that racism is built on! If non-human animals have less worth than humans then liking some humans to non-human animals means they have less worth. The issue is at the very start, that

    a) non-human animal and human are a meaningful distinction
    b) non-humans have inherently less worth than humans

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    speciesism is necessary. racism is bad.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago

    You realize putting googly eyes on a toaster doesn't give it feelings, right?

    Assigning human values and desires to non-humans is not a coherent philosophy or ethical position.

    Animals "Exploit" each other throughout the animal kingdom. Ants Literally farm aphids by protecting and herding them in exchange for what they produce. How is this wildly different from keeping a cow or a goat for milk?

    Is the cow version evil because we're humans, but the ant version okay because they aren't?

    Because that's just making rules based on your desired outcome, not reason.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    So it's fucked up to have pets because they fully depend on you? 🤔

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Yeah, pet ownership is not considered vegan. On account of, you know, owning a sentient being, treating it as property.

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