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just realized whoogle is dead now (lemmy.today)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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google search results are still kind of useful especially for non-english language queries, anyone knows a good alternative?

searxng also doesn't really seem to work these days..

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[–] 17 points 4 months ago* (7 children)

from an actual search company that values privacy.

California company obliged by FVEY? While I appreciate their efforts, American based companies kind of have a history of abandoning their privacy-respecting ways once subpoenaed.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    To be honest, this is one of those times where I would say that it's not that bad. Can't expect a company to outright violate the laws of the country they're registered in, you need to be friends with Trump to do that. If they keep their shit away from all the corpo vultures and only comply with direct subpoenas, it's probably the best we can hope for.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    yes but that's kind of the point. I don't want to deal with a company which is beholden to the law of gangsters. I might not hold it against them but also it is a huge competitive disadvantage for a privacy based product.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    So, if I can choose between a company that fucks me over with their search ranking, sells my data and still tries to present me bought ads as actual results, and is required to provide all this information to a corrupt goverment; versus a company that minimizes the amount of collected data, so they don't have to hand over so many information while being supoenad, I choose the 2nd option

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    I fear that this all-or-nothing attitude brings more harm than good. If leads to the thinking that if nothing is perfect nothing should be done anyway. More than once people were saying to me that they've read that they can get your data anyway so there is no difference between a firefox with adblock on linux and google chrome on windows 11 with all the trackers active.
    And this is exactly the attitude that those who are selling our data want us to have.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child)

    It's not all or nothing it's just America isn't a trustworthy place to hold anything you don't want accessed by a corrupt government. I wouldn't use a Russian service, I wouldn't use an American service.

    I mean the real answer is if you want privacy it needs to be trustless.

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