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China's Housing Crash Just Wiped Out 20 Years of Price Growth (thedeepdive.ca)
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[–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

Not sure what this AI slop is lol, but this is definitely not what I'm talking about. I recommend reading "How Marxism Works" by Chris Harman if you want to learn more to get a better idea of what I'm talking about. You can read it for free at this link: https://www.marxists.org/archive/harman/1979/marxism/

You're missing the whole part about the revolution. It's not a revolution brought about by voting or legislation. And it's also not about left vs. right. It's about the majority of people, the working class (farmers, factory workers, delivery drivers, teachers, healthcare workers, anyone who works for a wage and has a boss over them but also including small business owners in a lot of cases), engaging in a mass labor movement against the ruling class (bosses, large business owners, billionaires) in order to provide enough support to the vanguard party (see below) to take power and protect the movement/overwhelm the most likely violent reaction of the minority, wealthy, militaristic ruling class. This is all to achieve a government for the people by the people (to eradicate things like homelessness, mass job layoffs, and exorbitant home, food, and healthcare prices). We want a govt without the influence of billionaires, mega corporations, and the bourgeois political parties (like the Democrats & the Republicans).

Vanguard party (defined by ProleWiki):

The vanguard party, also called the vanguard, is the political party that is the most able to organize the proletariat and other popular classes (such as the peasantry) into a revolutionary party, and thus bring socialism to their country. The vanguard plays an important role in instilling revolutionary class consciousness amongst the proletariat and plays a critical role in the dictatorship of the proletariat in consolidating ties with the proletariat of other nations and maintaining the alliance of the workers and peasants. The vanguard is not a name a party gives themselves or gets bestowed upon them. A party becomes the vanguard when it proves to be the most capable at organizing the proletariat and achieving results. This also means the status of the vanguard can be lost if the party suddenly stops achieving results, or another party achieves even better results towards socialism.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    Not sure what this AI slop is lol

    Awe shucks, I actually used my brain for that one. It was just a fun story.

    I misunderstood what vanguard party is.

    I just have a hard time believing such a party will organically manifest. Who else is going to organize the working class but a party, and why would any of our parties organize the working class if it meant aiding the creation of a vanguard party? Our parties are too self-preservationalist.

    Not to mention, there’s so much propaganda that not everyone buys into socialism. There will be resistance within the working class, and therefore less organization.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    And as for a vanguard communist party coalescing, don't worry about that. DSA, which is democratic socialist not communist (and likely would never be able to fill the shoes of a vanguard party), is super popular now, and socialism and communism in general are gaining popularity among younger people. The more people who are interested in and study socialism and communism and get organized and involved, the likelier we are going to have more and more people willing to come together and form a competent party. Socialism for All (S4A), a youtube channel that publishing educational videos for people wanting to learn Marxist theory and analysis of current events, has seen exponential growth in subscriptions and engagement in the past ten years, as another example.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Our current bourgeois parties would certainly not have any part in organizing the working class or creating a vanguard party. It is up to the people to organize/be organized in a mass movement outside of a political party that is controlled by and beholden to the rich guys in power. There are third parties in existence now (like the Green Party, Peace & Freedom Party in California, and DSA, if it ever decouples from the Democratic Party) that can help organize workers into a mass movement to support a future vanguard party and worker revolution. But it could also be a mass movement akin to what we saw in Minneapolis, people on the ground from a bunch of different groups (and people from no groups) coming together to oppose ICE. This is all usually spurred on by a sheer drop in living conditions, like we are witnessing right now, and which will only be exacerbated by the growing AI data center trend, which will destabilize water supplies, cause huge electrical service disruptions, and which may cause pollution on a scale we have not experienced in our lifetimes.

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