Linux Phones

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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip [S] 4 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Can you even get the Jolla phone in the US?

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[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I'm it sure if it's possible to get a Jolla phone in the US

It is possible to get a Sony Xperia 10 with SailfishOS pre-installed in the US though: https://buy.jolla-devices.com/product/sony-xperia-10-iii-sailfish-os/

I bought one and have kinda messed with it a little. I haven't had time to fully switch over yet though.

Initial impressions are:

it may be a viable route
phone calls and SMS work on Mint Mobile
basic Android apps work (Whatsapp, Signal)
hardware works?

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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip [S] 2 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I am a bit concerned because it sounds like Sailfish OS doesn't have any kind of accessibility settings and I use a combination of magnification and screen reader.

I don't think Post Market OS has a screen reader either, but I have seen the accessibility section of GNOME Mobile and PHOSH, and they at least appear to have the zoom capabilities.

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[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

kde plasma has a screen reader so kde plasma mobile probably supports it

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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip [S] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Wait, kde has a screen reader? Since when? I was only aware of GNOME Orca.

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[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

kde uses orca too

in settings: Accessibility > Screen Reader

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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip [S] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

I thought Orca would only work for applications written in GTK. I didn't realize it would work for apps built

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[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago

id assume anything with a compatible accessibility api would work

https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-in-the-usa/5307/321

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[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 1 point 4 months ago*

edit: shit, you meant the J2, I replied as if you asked about SfOS. Well, I'm still leaving this comment. I'm sure someone talked about ordering the J2 to the US as well.

Yes.

(There are other threads discussing SfOS working outside of Europe)

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[–] PureTryOut@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children)

Sadly SFOS is largely (UI, core apps) proprietary.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

You're not wrong, but I wouldn't say "largely". It's mostly the elements that guarantee them a niche in the market: their very good Android App Support, some of the UI, plus some carryover from the NOKIA days (but they have started opensourcing some of those apps).

The rest is a bog-standard Linux/systemd/wayland system with an rpm/libzypp based package manager.

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[–] PureTryOut@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Sure, but that does make it more proprietary than say AOSP. That said, although the rest is "bog-standard", the whole middleware (the relevant FOSS bits of SFOS) is based on Qt 5.6 which is absolutely ancient. A bunch of it supports Qt6 due to work being done both by the Nemo Mobile folks and myself (need it for AsteroidOS), but SFOS itself is still stuck on Qt 5.6 for the forseeable future due to licensing issues.

And that's a major issue imo.

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[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, that's true. It's Linux, but it's not FOSS.

Given the lack of viable options and the importance of having an alternative, I'm worried about maintaining the status quo because we don't have a perfect solution. So I'm OK with SailfishOS being partly proprietary for now... and we should push them to open up more. Idk.