188
Putin 'starting to understand he may not win' the war in Ukraine (www.france24.com)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz
36 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

Within Russia, the war has come under growing criticism as Ukraine has ramped up strikes inside the country and Russian casualties keep growing ... These deadly attacks are a 'sign of desperation' as Putin is realising he might not win the war.

Here is an Invidious alt for the video (4 min) inside the linked article.

Archived

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 17 points 4 months ago (11 children)

Whenever nations start ridiculous wars of aggression and get their shit kicked in, they should lose a fuck ton of territory to the defending nation. It would be funny as hell if Ukraine doubled in size. And that's an excellent reason, isn't it?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 11 child comments
    •
  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Trouble with that is they inherit a bunch of propagandized people with that territory, that’s no good for their elections.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 10 child comments
    •
  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    I suppose that's true. I just think that there should some sort of semi-permanent punishment for a nation purposefully murdering the citizens of another in order to steal their land. If a nation is attempting to gain territory through violent means and ends up losing it instead, then I see that as a fitting punishment.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 9 child comments
    •
  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    there should some sort of semi-permanent punishment for a nation purposefully murdering the citizens of another in order to steal their land

    Easy, the leaders of that nation should be executed.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    Personal consequences for the powerful making fucked up decisions certainly dissuades similar behaviors in the future, but this is not the only thing that should happen. The people that have suffered should receive a tangible benefit of some kind.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    It certainly would be deliciously ironic for them to lose land in a war of conquest, but sanctions until they make tangible reparations to rebuilding the country they invade is a little more practical

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    Historically, that's typically what happened. If the aggressor was beaten back, the defender could decide to push them a little extra back and grab some land or a "buffer zone". Some years later, the aggressor is mad that they lost land, and have constructed a story about how they were the victims (after all, they're the ones that ended up losing land). Of course, they need to "retake their stolen land", so you get a new war. Rinse and repeat every couple decades, and you have European history up until about 1945.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Reparations don't have to be in the form of land.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •