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Russia bombards Kyiv in deadliest strike this year, killing at least 30 people (www.reuters.com)
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[+] -32 points 4 months ago (5 children)

This is bad counter-propaganda, as you’re lying about the basic facts. Also, you totally skipped over the Minsk Agreement, which Ukraine agreed to and then refused to enforce. They had a peace agreement and then decided to ignore it and escalate. That proves they were acting in bad faith the whole time.

Also, it was a given that Russia would invade as soon as Ukraine tried to use NATO to continue breaking the Minsk Agreement. NATO is an aggressive military alliance that has sought to encircle Russia since the USSR collapsed, and allowing a NATO country to emerge within bombing range of Moscow was a non-starter. Again, Ukraine never wanted peace. They wanted and chose escalation.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    NATO is an aggressive military alliance that has sought to encircle Russia since the USSR collapsed

    Again, only aggressive if Russia has territorial ambitions on its neighbours. Otherwise completely benign. The fact that you consider it aggressive betrays the fact that you know Russia has had territorial ambitions against its neighbours from the start. Making everything else useless verbal diarrhea.

    It also betrays your imperialist way of thinking, denying Russia's neighbours their sovereign right to join whichever military alliance they choose.

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  • [+] -15 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    First, the United States undermined Ukrainian sovereignty by sponsoring a coup. It was US imperial ambitions which turned Ukraine into a battlefield.

    Also, the United States is the head of NATO, and has said they’re open to a nuclear first strike. Of course Russia wouldn’t allow a NATO affiliated country on their border which would could make a nuclear strike so fast Russia would be unable to respond. Nuclear deterrence only works if you can mutually assure destruction and catastrophic losses on BOTH sides. If Russia can’t respond, then that’s just blackmail.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago

    First, the United States undermined Ukrainian sovereignty by sponsoring a coup.

    Same lie as before, there was no coup.

    Nuclear blahblah

    Look at a fucking map. Ukraine is only marginally closer to Moscow than Latvia. And by the same logic Russia should have invaded Finland before they could join NATO right next to Saint Petersburg but they didn't, because it's all complete bullshit and lies.

    Just fucking stop.

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