im sorry. where did I list my heroes in this conversation? Yeah us was involved with that along with many other countries. again not just a us thing. europe, russia, asia, south america have all had things like you try to pretend is just the us. now I did address the uniquely us things but much improvement post ww2 came out of the us response to the depression. Anyway the point is what happening under trump is different. is worse. and is not business as usual as folks like you want to make it out. I honestly just assume its right wing shillery to normalize what they do but maybe you legit think this way.