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I swear to God every summer is hotter than the one before (lemmy.today)
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[–] 6 points 4 months ago (24 children)

I think in Europe the penny is finally starting to drop and people will start buying ACs soon... hopefully

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Yeah AC will save all the problems caused by heatwaves. Because we'll be able to AC all outdoor crops, cattle, also the poor will be able to use AC, to avoid the heat dome effect we'll AC entire cities...

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Yeah we'll also probably get the malaria mosquitos and other bearers of tropical diseases here.

    Not to say that we should have ever gotten this far or that we're doing enough to stop climate change or that this is the only problem caused by climate change, but we are where we are and heatwaves kill and AC helps and, at least where I live, we have not done nearly enough to prevent these deaths thus far imo.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    AC is the cheap « oh we didn't do shit so now let's take the quickest solutions regardless of cost, externalities etc... »

    ACs help, sure, so would adding vegetations around houses/buildings, using higher albedo roofs, having fucking blinds on the windows, not building skyscrapers out of glass that are essentially giant greenhouses...

    But that requires planning and not voting for the destruction of the government's competence soo...

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah, but let me tell you, even if you have plenty of vegetation around the house, a well-insulated roof, windows that you open during the night and outside blinds you close during the day, this heatwave has been unbearable.

    I think we use the less energy-intensive tools at our disposal pretty effectively around here actually. As an example, my university's main building has also managed to remain somewhat bearable with minimal AC, somehow.

    The problem is that these things are beginning to not be enough anymore. I've been going through my personal hell on earth with this heatwave for the past weeks despite using all of the techniques that don't involve heat pumps, which is also why I feel so strongly about this. I simply can't see another way out in the short to medium term.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    We're going to use heatpumps/AC that's not the thing that pisses me off. The thing that pisses me off is the reaction from so many people in France is "oh we need AC now" and not "why the fuck did we wait so long to give a shit about climate change and why is nobody talking about reducing emissions still ?"

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Oh yeah, that's totally fair. I'm also still sour about the two perfectly good climate change laws that were rejected in referendums in Switzerland. This is where that gets us. I hope populism dies and all the oil barons burn in this world's last oil fire.

    And I want to watch the spectacle from an ACd room, ideally.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Try swamp coolers, especially when it is less humid, a wet blanket over a window with air blowing in, put the bottom of the blanket or beach towel in a pot of water, the evaporation creates a cooling effect.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Newer buildings are often built with windows oriented to miss the summer sunshine but get hit by the winter sun, one of my old apartments was built like that, and it was a world better than other old apartments, especially the ones that are like 80 years old, which get hellishly hot in the summer.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Where are you at? Because hard winter weather hasn't gone away, and that's what keeps those tropical/subtropical diseases from traveling north. We got like 3 or 4 polar inversions in the contintental US just this winter, and at least one for years going back.

    Those diseases aren't moving anywhere near us here, if you are right on the coast maybe as the ocean keeps it warmer in cold fronts, Washington DC was a malarial swamp since before we built the capitol there, but that's the farthest north of any malaria I've heard of in the US.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Switzerland. The first tiger mosquito was spotted in Ticino in 2003 and they are established there now. In other parts of Switzerland as well.

    And at least by how it feels, our winters have been getting milder as well.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    More AC hopefully? AC is a lousy way to cool, it's a major driver of climate change, and turning cities into heat islands.

    The ground is cool year round, and a cooperative heat exchange could serve multiple residences. There are better ways.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Yeah, ground source heat pumps are pretty awesome and are being installed with many new buildings and renovations around here.

    But that's also AC, right? Just powered by different (better) tech.

    I definitely agree that ground source heat pumps are better but they are also very expensive and basically only worth it if you replace a house's entire heating with it. Using some crappy mobile AC unit is an acceptable interim solution just to allow me to sleep at reasonable temperatures for the next few summers.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (8 children)

    What's the point of buying an AC if the majority of jobs in Europe are logistical or manufacturing without AC. That's where workers will die

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Take it easy friend, there will be other workers to take their place! Don't blow it out of proportion.

    /s duh

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)
    • the Soviet Union, and America Circa 1890
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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I mean you can have AC there too. And the EU should be capable of regulating max temperatures into existence. If they are able to regulate big tech, they should be able to do this as well (i hope). Also, manufacturing and logistical jobs are not even close to a majority of jobs in the EU.

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