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Daily reminder that the good old days of the Empire weren't THAT good... Classical Antiquity (~100 BCE) 20th Century History (media.piefed.social)
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[–] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Don't forget they wiped out the cultural heritage of the Gauls and Brits.

Wiped out most of the Gauls outright, really. Estimates of Caesar's conquest was 1 in 4 Gauls dead, 1 in 3 enslaved.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Don’t forget they wiped out the cultural heritage of the Gauls and Brits.

    These the same Gauls whose culture and language remained vibrant and present in archeological finds until the arrival of the migrating Germanic tribes?

    The same Brits whose culture, likewise, survives until the Anglo-Saxon migrations pushed them into enclaves in Wales and Cornwall?

    Wiped out most of the Gauls outright, really. Estimates of Caesar’s conquest was 1 in 4 Gauls dead, 1 in 3 enslaved.

    No, accepting Caesar's numbers ("Caesar considered that a million Gauls had been killed, and a million enslaved.") with modern estimates of the Gallic population (~6 million) results in 1/3 dead or enslaved. The issue is that mixing-and-matching numbers like that is highly questionable, even if you want to take Caesar's conveniently round estimate as literal and accurate.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children)

    ngl, guy who brags about killing a million people and enslaving another million sounds like a piece of shit. Even if he's lying, he still wanted to be seen as a genocidal oppressor of holocaustic scale. Any society which would approve of such supposed actions is evil.

    I stand with the barbarians.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    ngl, guy who brags about killing a million people and enslaving another million sounds like a piece of shit.

    If saying "I won over a large number of enemies" is all that it takes to count as a piece of shit, I have really bad news about the Gauls for You.

    Even if he’s lying, he still wanted to be seen as a genocidal oppressor of holocaustic scale.

    That's not even close to the message, especially considering the rest of the Commentarii.

    Any society which would approve of such supposed actions is evil.

    ... how do You think Gallic societies reacted to their leaders murdering and enslaving others?

    I stand with the barbarians.

    Of course. What's a little human sacrifice and executing the slowest member of each tribe for 'disloyalty' between friends?

    This is not to assert moral superiority of Rome over the Gauls, only to point out that extreme violence and its celebration are not particularly Roman. They're simply pre-modern.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    What’s a little human sacrifice and executing the slowest member of each tribe for ‘disloyalty’ between friends?

    Is this stupidity-slow or velocity-slow? Whatever it is, does this act have a name or term?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago

    Velocity-slow. The stragglers from each tribe called to war were tortured or executed. I don't think there's a specific term for it, though I vaguely remember a few similar events in history.

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