Hello, recent Reddit convert here and I'm loving it. You even inspired me to figure out how to fully dump Windows and install LineageOS.

One thing I can't understand is the level of acrimony toward LLMs. I see things like "stochastic parrot", "glorified autocomplete", etc. If you need an example, the comments section for the post on Apple saying LLMs don't reason is a doozy of angry people: https://infosec.pub/post/29574988

While I didn't expect a community of vibecoders, I am genuinely curious about why LLMs strike such an emotional response with this crowd. It's a tool that has gone from interesting (GPT3) to terrifying (Veo 3) in a few years and I am personally concerned about many of the safety/control issues in the future.

So I ask: what is the real reason this is such an emotional topic for you in particular? My personal guess is that the claims about replacing software engineers is the biggest issue, but help me understand.

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[–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My hypothesis from the start is that people were on a roll with the crypto hate (which was a lot less ambiguous, since there were fewer legitimate applications there).

Then the AI gold rush hit and both investors and haters smoothly rolled onto that and transferred over a lot of the same discourse. It helps that AIbros overhyped the crap out of the tech, but the carryover hate was also entirely unwilling to acknowledge any kind of nuance from the go.

So now you have a bunch of people with significant emotional capital baked into the idea that genAI is fundamentally a scam and/or a world-destroying misstep that have a LOT of face to lose by conceding even a sliver of usefulness or legitimacy to the thing. They are not entirely right... but not entirely wrong, either, so there you go, the perfect recipe for an eternal culture war.

Welcome to discourse and public opinion in the online age. It kinda sucks.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It doesn't help with the hate that LLMs have some obvious flaws but tech bros are dead set on declaring it the future and ramming it in every product foie gras style.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yep. And in turn the haters are 100% willing to buy this framing where AI will kill all jobs and sap all energy and data on the planet immediately, because that both helps sell the product and makes opposing it all the more appealing.

    I suspect they are both extremely optimistic about what the tech will be able to do, at least in the short term.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I was in on the crypto hate. I don’t really have a hate boner for AI.

    Sure, there are things to dislike about AI, but it can be moderately useful. In contrast to crypto, AI is the hype because it’s widely used. Crypto was the hype because a few people hit the jackpot.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    I mean, who wasn't in on the crypto hate? It was such an obvious scam.

    I do agree on the characterization of why they are different, but I'd still say a lot of the hate train rolled right from one to the other. It's not a 100% overlap, but... it's up there.

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