▲ 258 ▼ ‘We created a monster’: companies rein in AI usage as costs strain budgets — Amazon, Walmart and Uber are among early adopters that have introduced caps or discouraged wasteful activity (www.ft.com) submitted 4 months ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/technology@lemmy.world 35 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] fodor@lemmy.zip 61 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 27 points 4 months ago (4 children) This, plus if we had any kind of political will or intelligence (as a nation; meaning the USA) we'd force AI companies to pay their extenalities: treat and sanitize every drop of water they use, and build the infrastructure to bring it back to communities; pay for their electrical infrastructure in advance and pay their electricity bills to the tune of "nobody else's bill goes up"; some kind of massive carbon capture tax for their use (this one might not be possible to actually do; it's too much); and of course paying royalties and copyright violation fines. As at least one AI CEO has said, if they had to pay for all the laws they've broken and resources they've stolen, all AI companies currently existing would go out of business. let's say they didn't: The cost per token would be quite high, and very few people would use it. It runs on theft and planet-scale destruction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Almacca@aussie.zone 16 points 4 months ago As at least one AI CEO has said, if they had to pay for all the laws they've broken and resources they've stolen, all AI companies currently existing would go out of business. I find those terms acceptable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago* (2 children) It runs on theft and planet-scale destruction. You could argue that this is the very nature of capitalism: theft because it always means owners extracting value from other people's work, and ultimately planet-scale destruction because it depends on infinite growth while externalizing (not paying for) the true costs of its activity. In that sense, AI companies are just a faster-growing strain of the global cancer that is capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 5 points 4 months ago Reasonable take, but the last part ("faster-growing") is huge here. The sheer scale and multipliers on the bad things caused by AI are far beyond most (all?) previous technologies used by capitalists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 2 points 3 months ago I think that is a reasonable take. It is s huge jump, in many ways, so I believe it is much more dangerous than other capitalist "innovations". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 27 points 4 months ago (4 children) This, plus if we had any kind of political will or intelligence (as a nation; meaning the USA) we'd force AI companies to pay their extenalities: treat and sanitize every drop of water they use, and build the infrastructure to bring it back to communities; pay for their electrical infrastructure in advance and pay their electricity bills to the tune of "nobody else's bill goes up"; some kind of massive carbon capture tax for their use (this one might not be possible to actually do; it's too much); and of course paying royalties and copyright violation fines. As at least one AI CEO has said, if they had to pay for all the laws they've broken and resources they've stolen, all AI companies currently existing would go out of business. let's say they didn't: The cost per token would be quite high, and very few people would use it. It runs on theft and planet-scale destruction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Almacca@aussie.zone 16 points 4 months ago As at least one AI CEO has said, if they had to pay for all the laws they've broken and resources they've stolen, all AI companies currently existing would go out of business. I find those terms acceptable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago* (2 children) It runs on theft and planet-scale destruction. You could argue that this is the very nature of capitalism: theft because it always means owners extracting value from other people's work, and ultimately planet-scale destruction because it depends on infinite growth while externalizing (not paying for) the true costs of its activity. In that sense, AI companies are just a faster-growing strain of the global cancer that is capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 5 points 4 months ago Reasonable take, but the last part ("faster-growing") is huge here. The sheer scale and multipliers on the bad things caused by AI are far beyond most (all?) previous technologies used by capitalists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 2 points 3 months ago I think that is a reasonable take. It is s huge jump, in many ways, so I believe it is much more dangerous than other capitalist "innovations". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 16 points 4 months ago As at least one AI CEO has said, if they had to pay for all the laws they've broken and resources they've stolen, all AI companies currently existing would go out of business. I find those terms acceptable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago* (2 children) It runs on theft and planet-scale destruction. You could argue that this is the very nature of capitalism: theft because it always means owners extracting value from other people's work, and ultimately planet-scale destruction because it depends on infinite growth while externalizing (not paying for) the true costs of its activity. In that sense, AI companies are just a faster-growing strain of the global cancer that is capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 5 points 4 months ago Reasonable take, but the last part ("faster-growing") is huge here. The sheer scale and multipliers on the bad things caused by AI are far beyond most (all?) previous technologies used by capitalists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 2 points 3 months ago I think that is a reasonable take. It is s huge jump, in many ways, so I believe it is much more dangerous than other capitalist "innovations". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 5 points 4 months ago Reasonable take, but the last part ("faster-growing") is huge here. The sheer scale and multipliers on the bad things caused by AI are far beyond most (all?) previous technologies used by capitalists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 2 points 3 months ago I think that is a reasonable take. It is s huge jump, in many ways, so I believe it is much more dangerous than other capitalist "innovations". permalink fedilink source parent