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[–] Fancy_Gecko@lemmy.ml 26 points 4 months ago (1 child)

israel is west's imperial outpost in middle east

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[–] mynameisbob@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago

Well I would rather see them die a slow death as they rip each other apart. Israel was on the verge of cival war before the conclict escalated. I like to see the head nazis hang or the country implode and fall apart.

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[–] Mojitas@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

The Christians of the world care because there is some bullshit in the bible about Jesus returning when the Jews lives there. And that is also probably why the place even exists as it does today.

It is pure fucking madness.

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[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 20 points 4 months ago

I certainly fuckin don’t.

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[+] PixeIOrange@lemmy.world -14 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Because of the ~10% decent people there.

Bombing a land is never good, even if its israel.

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[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago

What are your thoughts on the bombing of Nazi Germany?

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[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

There are three types of evil:

The ones doing the genocide with their own hands.
The ones doing nothing to stop it.
The ones who failed at stopping it.

There's no innocent in Israel. They're all soldiers. There are Israeli who are deliberately culprit, living there, and Israeli who are atoning overseas (the only ones deserving forgiveness).

Those 10℅ you talk about (it's way less than that) are living shield serving the genocidal state.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (7 children)

There are Palestinians that live in Israel.

They aren't allowed to use the same bomb shelters as Jews.

In an apartheid state there are always going to be second class citizens that are not afforded the same rights as the ruling caste.

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[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago* (6 children)

They must be liberated. They're captives. And they're not Israeli. Any Palestinian with blood inside veins should refuse that denomination.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (5 children)

But they live in Israel all the same, and if Israel is bombed they're the ones who won't be allowed in the bomb shelters.

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[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Ask yourself whether they wouldn’t be willing to die to help burn the blight on the humankind called Israel. Don’t play liberal here, comrade.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I can ask myself all I like, but I'm not the one that has to burn the answers onto my body.

If bombing Israel was the only way to destroy it, then maybe it's worth it. It's not. "Israel" isn't a real country, it's a fragile garrison state that can only exist as long as it is provided an unlimited supply of weapons and investment. Cut off that supply and Israel will melt into air as all the settlers flee back to their home countries. There's simply no need to kill Israel's human shields.

And that's why Iran is playing this game. They're trying to collapse Israel without killing all the Palestinians that live there.

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[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

Okay, comrade, I'm frustrated. Israel is hanging dozens of prisoners every week. The genocidal state doesn't deserve any consideration. No rationalization can bring back those lifes.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

I'm not giving the genocidal state any consideration. The ruling caste deserves to be bombed, no question.

But we have to give consideration to the Palestinians living under the boot within Israel, because they're the ones who won't be allowed into the Jewish bomb shelters. I think that's what the Axis is trying to figure out with these negotiations; is it possible to defeat Israel without sacrificing the Palestinians that live there? And to do it within an acceptable time-frame? Maybe.

I'm frustrated too, but I'm not the one with my body on the line. I can't blame the Axis of Resistance for exhausting all other options.

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[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

You can ask yourself that, but it's not for you or I to answer