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[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al -2 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

Do you think Saddam won? The US won the war with Iraq if not the war with the insurgency.

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[+] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

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[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ok so you can't win a war if it wasn't clean and easy? And since when has the publicly stated justification for a war ever had anything to do with who won? Lots of wars start with false justifications.

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[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al 0 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

20 years? The US ousted the ba'athist government in less than a month and installed a sympathetic regime in less than two years. Even a pyrrhic victory is still a victory. The US got what it wanted geopolitically and the government they waged war against was ousted.

It was costly, unjustified, evil, and probably not even worth it from the cold math of empire but it was still a military victory.

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[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oh ok I guess nobody has ever won a war because war is bad and even the winners take casualties. Very strong arguments you've presented of 'no lol', acting smug, and having your own bespoke definition of winning a war.