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[Ethics] Why do people condemn Zoophilia on the basis of other animal's inability to consent but those same people kill animals without asking for their consent? Why such inconsistency? (lemmy.world)
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[โ€“] [S] -2 points 4 months ago (9 children)

You are saying that humans killing animal for their benefits is right. Then you should also appreciate humans having sex with other animals. Because in both cases we are neglecting the Animal's consent in its entirely. As we are far more intelligent and strong, we should do whatever we please (Killing or Raping) with other animals. It's logically consistent.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    If by benefit you mean survival, then yes. Fucking animals is not what humans evolved to do for survival.

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  • [โ€“] [S] -1 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    If Killing is considered right then Raping should be right because both persons are getting away with doing wrong to "innocent victims". Here, Killer should not be judgmental of Rapist's actions because Killing is a far bigger crime.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    I was talking about food, not rape and murder. I never said killing is right in general. Stop with the straw men.

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  • [โ€“] [S] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)
    • We are gaining the meat by killing innocent animals.
    • We are gaining pleasure by raping innocent animals.

    How are you not able to see the similar patterns within these systemic injustices against innocents?

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    You're a crazy one, nobody is talking about raping animals.

    Life eats life.

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  • [โ€“] [S] 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)
    • Interspecific sex is a common occurrence within nature and this behavior is also present in humans (zoophilia). As animals can't consent. So any sexual activity becomes a Rape.

    Again the point was similarities in non-consensual killing and raping. Don't you think that killing and raping are both great injustices against innocent animals? If we think killing is ok then Raping also becomes ok as it's a smaller crime than killing.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Killing an animal for food is nothing like rape. Rape is unnecessary and not required for sustenance or reproduction, it's not something our species evolved to do (the fact that something can be done doesn't mean we evolved to do it, ducks on the other hand...). Are you equivocating most of the world's population for all of history with rapists? Is your mom and dad a rapist then? Are lions rapists, just not smart enough to know they're raping gazelles and zebras?

    If you think animals killing and eating other animals is rape, then I hope you're a blade of grass because even vegans would be unintentionally raping animals in pursuit of sustenance. Don't kid yourself that a vegan diet is free of suffering, you just care less about those species apparently.

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  • [โ€“] [S] -1 points 4 months ago (1 child)
    • Clarifying; "Animals can't consent thus any sexual activity becomes rape" is related to Animal-Human copulation. As zoophilia was mentioned in previous sentence.

    From animals' perspective, Non-consensual killing is worst than Non-consensual sex (Rape). Their similarities lies in the negation of consent by the humans and both actions are unjust. Humans are just giving out disingenuous arguments to hide their crime of killing innocent animals because they benefit from such injustices.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 4 months ago

    Sorry for the late reply, I've been away from Lemmy.

    Animals killing other animals for food is what complex life if based on. This is a necessary part of complex life. Rape is not. This is a key difference. Should species that eat other living things let themselves go extinct so as to not violate consent? Should they sacrifice their health eating species inappropriate foods in an attempt to minimize violations of consent? Even if you think this, it won't happen, living things are the result of successful past generations, and a species that sacrifices itself to be nice to it's prey would not evolve.

    Thinking of participation in the food chain as a "crime" is silly on many levels. I was a vegetarian in my youth and thought many of the same silly things as you until I thought about things more deeply and realistically.

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