▲ 35 ▼ On OpenAI's Support for Rust - The Rust Foundation (rustfoundation.org) submitted 4 months ago by SorteKanin@feddit.dk to c/rust@programming.dev 17 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] fruitcantfly@programming.dev 10 points 4 months ago (10 children) How so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] somegeek@programming.dev -10 points 4 months ago (9 children) It's independant and less biased. Rust has really fallen into drama and also political stuff with megacorps. Rust definitely has a firm place for future, but I would say Rust is more similar to java and Zig is more similar to C in that manner. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago Unless you put stake into right-wing ideologues who hate Rust because it has many cat girl developers, there is no drama. And for the record, you shouldn't, the hate peddlers make your life worse. And great proof that Rust is free and independent is the fact that they still (carefully) do breaking changes (e.g. the slow rollout of the never type). If the corporate world would dictate its development, it'd never break existing code. permalink fedilink source parent [–] communism@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago (6 children) I would say Rust is more similar to java and Zig is more similar to C in that manner You're gonna have to elaborate on that… How so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] somegeek@programming.dev -1 points 4 months ago (5 children) I think I did! Rust has lots of corporate and political backing from big companies and political/security firms (FBI, pentagon etc) and zig is more free and has less governance and backing, less politics involved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (3 children) Those companies and firms back Rust because it's memory safe without a garbage collector, and great for general purpose programming or systems programming. That's super important for everyone, but especially large companies working on high performance or mission critical software. Zig is not memory safe so it's a non-starter for these things, and has not proven itself in the industry anywhere near what Rust has. This has nothing to do with Rust being "corporate" or anything wrong with Rust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] somegeek@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) Don't these companies and firms get more power in steering and forming the future, features and efforts of the rust project? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago Nope! permalink fedilink source parent [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Like @OP said: Foundation members have no say on the direction of the language. permalink fedilink source parent [–] innocentz3r0@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago C was literally created by AT&T for unix and pushed into POSIX and enforced as a standard. C is as corporate as it gets. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vanillama@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago As long as it's just receiving money it's whatever, we have lots of corporate sponsorship in the Linux kernel and in other components we use every day for computing. I wouldn't move to a different kernel/OS just because I agreed on some ideological stuff with their makers. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] somegeek@programming.dev -10 points 4 months ago (9 children) It's independant and less biased. Rust has really fallen into drama and also political stuff with megacorps. Rust definitely has a firm place for future, but I would say Rust is more similar to java and Zig is more similar to C in that manner. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago Unless you put stake into right-wing ideologues who hate Rust because it has many cat girl developers, there is no drama. And for the record, you shouldn't, the hate peddlers make your life worse. And great proof that Rust is free and independent is the fact that they still (carefully) do breaking changes (e.g. the slow rollout of the never type). If the corporate world would dictate its development, it'd never break existing code. permalink fedilink source parent [–] communism@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago (6 children) I would say Rust is more similar to java and Zig is more similar to C in that manner You're gonna have to elaborate on that… How so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] somegeek@programming.dev -1 points 4 months ago (5 children) I think I did! Rust has lots of corporate and political backing from big companies and political/security firms (FBI, pentagon etc) and zig is more free and has less governance and backing, less politics involved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (3 children) Those companies and firms back Rust because it's memory safe without a garbage collector, and great for general purpose programming or systems programming. That's super important for everyone, but especially large companies working on high performance or mission critical software. Zig is not memory safe so it's a non-starter for these things, and has not proven itself in the industry anywhere near what Rust has. This has nothing to do with Rust being "corporate" or anything wrong with Rust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] somegeek@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) Don't these companies and firms get more power in steering and forming the future, features and efforts of the rust project? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago Nope! permalink fedilink source parent [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Like @OP said: Foundation members have no say on the direction of the language. permalink fedilink source parent [–] innocentz3r0@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago C was literally created by AT&T for unix and pushed into POSIX and enforced as a standard. C is as corporate as it gets. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vanillama@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago As long as it's just receiving money it's whatever, we have lots of corporate sponsorship in the Linux kernel and in other components we use every day for computing. I wouldn't move to a different kernel/OS just because I agreed on some ideological stuff with their makers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago Unless you put stake into right-wing ideologues who hate Rust because it has many cat girl developers, there is no drama. And for the record, you shouldn't, the hate peddlers make your life worse. And great proof that Rust is free and independent is the fact that they still (carefully) do breaking changes (e.g. the slow rollout of the never type). If the corporate world would dictate its development, it'd never break existing code. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] communism@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago (6 children) I would say Rust is more similar to java and Zig is more similar to C in that manner You're gonna have to elaborate on that… How so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] somegeek@programming.dev -1 points 4 months ago (5 children) I think I did! Rust has lots of corporate and political backing from big companies and political/security firms (FBI, pentagon etc) and zig is more free and has less governance and backing, less politics involved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (3 children) Those companies and firms back Rust because it's memory safe without a garbage collector, and great for general purpose programming or systems programming. That's super important for everyone, but especially large companies working on high performance or mission critical software. Zig is not memory safe so it's a non-starter for these things, and has not proven itself in the industry anywhere near what Rust has. This has nothing to do with Rust being "corporate" or anything wrong with Rust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] somegeek@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) Don't these companies and firms get more power in steering and forming the future, features and efforts of the rust project? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago Nope! permalink fedilink source parent [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Like @OP said: Foundation members have no say on the direction of the language. permalink fedilink source parent [–] innocentz3r0@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago C was literally created by AT&T for unix and pushed into POSIX and enforced as a standard. C is as corporate as it gets. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] somegeek@programming.dev -1 points 4 months ago (5 children) I think I did! Rust has lots of corporate and political backing from big companies and political/security firms (FBI, pentagon etc) and zig is more free and has less governance and backing, less politics involved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (3 children) Those companies and firms back Rust because it's memory safe without a garbage collector, and great for general purpose programming or systems programming. That's super important for everyone, but especially large companies working on high performance or mission critical software. Zig is not memory safe so it's a non-starter for these things, and has not proven itself in the industry anywhere near what Rust has. This has nothing to do with Rust being "corporate" or anything wrong with Rust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] somegeek@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) Don't these companies and firms get more power in steering and forming the future, features and efforts of the rust project? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago Nope! permalink fedilink source parent [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Like @OP said: Foundation members have no say on the direction of the language. permalink fedilink source parent [–] innocentz3r0@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago C was literally created by AT&T for unix and pushed into POSIX and enforced as a standard. C is as corporate as it gets. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (3 children) Those companies and firms back Rust because it's memory safe without a garbage collector, and great for general purpose programming or systems programming. That's super important for everyone, but especially large companies working on high performance or mission critical software. Zig is not memory safe so it's a non-starter for these things, and has not proven itself in the industry anywhere near what Rust has. This has nothing to do with Rust being "corporate" or anything wrong with Rust. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] somegeek@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) Don't these companies and firms get more power in steering and forming the future, features and efforts of the rust project? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago Nope! permalink fedilink source parent [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Like @OP said: Foundation members have no say on the direction of the language. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] somegeek@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) Don't these companies and firms get more power in steering and forming the future, features and efforts of the rust project? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago Nope! permalink fedilink source parent [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Like @OP said: Foundation members have no say on the direction of the language. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Like @OP said: Foundation members have no say on the direction of the language. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] innocentz3r0@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago C was literally created by AT&T for unix and pushed into POSIX and enforced as a standard. C is as corporate as it gets. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vanillama@programming.dev 1 point 4 months ago As long as it's just receiving money it's whatever, we have lots of corporate sponsorship in the Linux kernel and in other components we use every day for computing. I wouldn't move to a different kernel/OS just because I agreed on some ideological stuff with their makers. permalink fedilink source parent