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New Zealand Minister said lower speed limits are ‘anti-car ideology’ – a new analysis shows they saved lives (thespinoff.co.nz)
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[–] 63 points 4 months ago (12 children)

They are anti car ideology and thats a good thing :)

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  • [+] -22 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    I don't think you realise how rural parts of NZ are, there's a big chunk of the population for who public transport will simply never be an option.

    Attitudes like yours only serve to piss off a large chunk of the population.

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  • [–] 33 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Rural people aren't usually the ones getting reduced speed limits though, no?

    I live in a city and I drive daily. I don't feel any animosity against reduced speed limits, especially when it's obviously done to save lives. What logical reason would you have to be driving 50+ in a highly populated zone?

    Carbrains need to realize that they have an attitude problem, or they will never learn.

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    They very much are, there were a number of roads that got reduced from 100 to 80, for example, in the same push for slower speed limits, most of them with no real justification. Side roads that were the responsibility of the local council remained at 100, meaning people often drove on narrower roads to avoid the lower limits.

    There are likely some justified speed reductions being thrown in the bin along with the silly ones, and that's mostly on our previous government.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Sounds to me like either incompetence or malicious compliance on the part of the department implementing the reductions. Maybe work on fixing that instead of using it as an excuse to rail against the concept entirely.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago

    Nah, it was very much an inflexible policy. Previously, the relevant departments had been doing very well with implementing targeted speed reductions in response to known hazard areas.

    And we're going back to that again, fortunately.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Our rural roads here in Japan are 60 at most, with most being 40 or 50. I don't think I'd feel safe going a whole lot faster than that. Certain divided, multi-lane roads can get up to 80, but those are different to what I'm thinking of going to actual individual houses.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago

    NZ has a similar land area to Japan, with five million people, mostly in urban areas, whereas Japan has something like a hundred million. We've got rural roads that are dead straight for kilometres, and you can drive for 10-15 minutes without a car coming the other way.

    There are also much more winding roads where actually driving 100 would be suicide, of course.

    I seriously wonder if some of the people here have ever been outside an urban area.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Respectability politics never gets anywhere anyway. Let the carbrains get mad, there's no avoiding it.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    I was genuinely hoping to have some type of intelligent discussion here, I live in NZ, and I know for a fact that public transport just isn't an option for a large chunk of the population.

    But instead you've responded with "hurr durr car brain."

    I don't know what I was expecting.

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    The general thinking from .ml types is that you should only ever be living in a city, anyone not living in a city is scum and doesn't deserve to get around. They think food comes from packets materialised by Stalin himself.

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